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slross83

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I know the name of the game for any buissness is to make money. And i made a account to this forum just for this one single post. Now im mostly not even speaking for myself as i have no problems with the game other than it is far from running at peak performance due to poor necode and gpu utilization being poor. But nothing makes me sicker than to see a game that runs like crap for the majority of people who play it to be releasing a expansion pack. Maybe im the only one who feels this way. The game runs fine for me i average 50 fps so no big problems other than a ton of minor issues. but these minor issues anoy the hell out of me. We all can admit this game was not finished upon release. But to anounce a expansion already just seems like tripwire is saying screw the issues in ro2 lets just get more freakin money and make an expansion. This disguss me. I for one would like to play the original ro2 the way it was supposed to be made without any problems before i jump into another game with a whole new set of problems. Seems like time shouldve been spent improving the original instead of working on a expansion pack. I bought this game and though i had problems at first i think it is very enjoyable. And i was under the impression that tripwire was great and they will fix everything and there just freaking awesome. But no i get a game although fun, has semi par graphics poor netcode and i average 20 fps less than crysis multiplayer on ultra settings. But now you state were releasing a expansion. Are you freaking serious. Fix the dam game you already made then let peole enjoy it for a bit the way it was supposed be. Christ am i the only one who sees the server count dwindling. people are leaving your game and your trying to sell us a freaking expansion pack. Great buissness model you have there.
 

melipone

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The "expansion" was announced a long time ago and its NOT being made by Tripwire. I don't know the specifics, but basically a bunch of experienced modders are making a total conversion mod that may get some extra polish from TWI (unsure on this) and then released on Steam, with proceeds being split between TWI and the modders. I think its a good idea personally as it gives a good incentive to modders to make top quality content, and it means TWI can focus on the main game. They will be adding and improving RO2 with free DLC/patches. We're looking at next year though, maybe around this time for Rising Storm (no specifics again). There are also other total conversions mods in the works but they are free I believe. This being relatively early days its not all set in stone yet I believe
 
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Das Bose

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As Melipone said, they are not trying to sell us an expansion. A mod team is making a mod which may or may not be free and there are several other mods that will be free.

I don't know who told you otherwise, but they weren't being honest.

A huge lol at whoever down voted this post....

The truth is clearly not popular these days.
 
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DAT

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I guess considering where Red Orchestra first started and all its bugs, glitches, developments and such since 2004, I am not upset about lil bugs in the game verusus a finely polished product. I do know as the game matures it will only get better much like RO1 did with final products such as DH and MN.
 

Alperce

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You really should try to search the forums, or at least take a quick look at what the game devs say, before making threads like these.

No one ever, ever talked about releasing an expansion pack. Rising Storm is not an expansion pack, it's a mod, and if when it's finished you have to pay for it, it will be like buying a cheap, different game, that will in no way influence RO2.

TWI already said, several times, that all DLC, expansions, or whatever you want to call it, that comes out for RO2 will be Free of charge. Also, they said that before the DLC the priority is preformance, sound and lag, which means, polishing the game, which pretty much makes this thread not only unecessary, as completely misinformed and almost trolish.

If you are going to rant about something, read up on it before, or at least ask if it's real or fake, otherwise you'll just look stupid. No offense here, but I bet this is pretty much what everyone who read your post thought OP.
 
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Rumpullpus

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well to be honest TWI said alot of things that turned out to be false after the game was released. how do we know that free content wasnt one of them?

IMHO im not sure i like the idea of paying for mod-expansions. mods should be free, nothing is stoping them from creating a entirely new game but a mod should be free. idk kinda a new concept so maybe im just over thinking it.
 

slross83

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forgive me for thinking its an expansion pack when on steam it states "A post on the Red Orchestra blog announces Rising Storm as the first expansion pack for Red Orchestra 2" not a mod."

If its free from the modding community then i will shut the hell up right now. but it doesnt appear that way.
So instead of saying do some research and stating that its a mod then how about stating on the blog announcing it as so. and not a expansion.
 

kllr101

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forgive me for thinking its an expansion pack when on steam it states "A post on the Red Orchestra blog announces Rising Storm as the first expansion pack for Red Orchestra 2" not a mod."

If its free from the modding community then i will shut the hell up right now. but it doesnt appear that way.
So instead of saying do some research and stating that its a mod then how about stating on the blog announcing it as so. and not a expansion.

The difference between mod and expansion is very thin here, Rising Storm is a mod, it's not being made by TWI, it's being made by an independent mod team, an depending on the quality of the final mod, may or may not be released as an "official" mod (expansion) backed by TWI.

Which is more a huge complement to the modders than anything else. Whether RS will cost us, is yet to be announced (or decided, for all we know)

Either way - there's other mods (like Rising Storm) that are in development already, that were also announced pre-release, such as In County and Iron Europe.

TWI themselves will continue to work on fixing RO2 and producing content for it for the future, and the mod teams will continue to work on their respective areas. Which is exactly how it should be. :)
 
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Cpt-Praxius

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I know the name of the game for any buissness is to make money. And i made a account to this forum just for this one single post.

Then how come you have 2 posts now? :cool:

Now im mostly not even speaking for myself as i have no problems with the game other than it is far from running at peak performance due to poor necode and gpu utilization being poor. But nothing makes me sicker than to see a game that runs like crap for the majority of people who play it to be releasing a expansion pack. Maybe im the only one who feels this way. The game runs fine for me i average 50 fps so no big problems.....

Sorry, but people like you P me right off.

You're just as bad as all those people who try to fight for males who were circumcised and trying to get the process banned, when they themselves were never circumcised to know wtf they're talking about, nor did they ever really ask any males who were if they really care and just go off on an unjustified crusade because they think they know better.

If people think something is wrong.... if people are feeling that they're in an unfair situation..... if people want some sort of change or simply want to deal with a problem that directly relates to them..... they can do it themselves if they're really that upset over something.

They don't need some loud mouth getting on their soap box to preach about things they know nothing about due to the situation in question having no relation or impact on them.

You claim the majority of players are having a game that runs like crap..... based on what?

Did you actually collect enough factual information or statistical details to back up the claim that the majority of players can't play the game well, or are you just basing your ignorant assumptions on a couple of people who shout louder than the rest of the members in these forums and sum it up to them being the majority?

Yes, RO2 wasn't very smooth in the Beta and the first couple of weeks after official release..... but from what I have seen, as well as my own personal experience, the game runs just fine for plenty of people and at worst.... the other chunk of players are in your boat, where the game runs fine but has a few minor issues...... and a small fraction of the community is still experiencing critical issues..... Not the Majority.

That's not to say that they don't need to work on the game anymore.... but let's cut the BS exaggerations cuz they don't help you win any argument.

..... other than a ton of minor issues. but these minor issues anoy the hell out of me. We all can admit this game was not finished upon release.

No modern game is ever finished upon release, which is why Patches & Updates exist in the first place.

But to anounce a expansion already just seems like tripwire is saying screw the issues in ro2 lets just get more freakin money and make an expansion. This disguss me.

Well your ignorance on what you're preaching about is what disgusts me.

Even before the Beta was released, talks of official mods (not expansions).... which will be free by the way..... were already in the works, such as Rising Storm.... this isn't some magical surprise that nobody knew about, this is old news.

Secondly, Tripwire themselves are not directly working on the Mod.... another team is. They're just providing pats on the back and support here and there while they continue focused work on RO2.

I for one would like to play the original ro2 the way it was supposed to be made without any problems before i jump into another game with a whole new set of problems.

And who exactly is forcing you to play another game?

Sounds like it's only yourself.

And if you think Tripwire is just going to toss RO2 aside at this stage in order to work on something else, then you really have no idea what you're talking about & wasting all of our time with this crap.

Seems like time shouldve been spent improving the original instead of working on a expansion pack. I bought this game and though i had problems at first i think it is very enjoyable. And i was under the impression that tripwire was great and they will fix everything and there just freaking awesome.

Which they will.....

But no i get a game although fun, has semi par graphics poor netcode and i average 20 fps less than crysis multiplayer on ultra settings. But now you state were releasing a expansion. Are you freaking serious. Fix the dam game you already made then let peole enjoy it for a bit the way it was supposed be. Christ am i the only one who sees the server count dwindling. people are leaving your game and your trying to sell us a freaking expansion pack. Great buissness model you have there.

And great grasp on what's really going on you have there..... thanks for wasting my time with this crap.

Next time you should educate yourself on the topic before you decide to get up on your soap box to preach like an expert on nothing.
 
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SolitarioSoldat

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Yes, the Rising Storm team is a different entity, if we didn't exist TWI wouldn't have any more manpower to work on RO 2 than they currently have. The end result of that would just be "no rising storm" ;)
I'm sure lots of people appreciate what you guys doing whether having an excelent release and charge for it or having a semi descent release and let it slide for free,but please for the sake of the game have a descent size of of ALPHA and BETA testing and have the community to help you out with the bugs.

forgive me for thinking its an expansion pack when on steam it states "A post on the Red Orchestra blog announces Rising Storm as the first expansion pack for Red Orchestra 2" not a mod."

If its free from the modding community then i will shut the hell up right now. but it doesnt appear that way.
So instead of saying do some research and stating that its a mod then how about stating on the blog announcing it as so. and not a expansion.
Just letting you know and giving you heads up what type of modders are working on this puppy,almost all dev team a very well known good modders which some of them are from Darkest Hour mod from ROOST. Nothing against TWI but darkest hour was a mod and actually had better gameplay,tactics,suppresion,bigger and tactical maps,more vehicles than RO1 and was a FREE mod that dev team still working on and supporing with new content!

So whatever they charge for the RO2 DLC I'm 100% sure will be VERY reasonable price and they will support the expansion till people stop playing it.BTW TWI works on their own free DL content for RO2 and trying to polish out the game,but seems like they are having problems figuring out what might cause the problems and they dont know which way to take or from where to start.

No matter how many small bugs in the game pisses me off I understand when there is a problem and sometimes it cannot be fixed overnight or in 1-3 months or even longer.... $hit happens ;)
 
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kllr101

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And great grasp on what's really going on you have there..... thanks for wasting my time with this crap.

Next time you should educate yourself on the topic before you decide to get up on your soap box to preach like an expert on nothing.

I agree, if everybody educated themselves just a little bit on the subjects at hand, rather than preaching to everybody about how it should actually be, these threads and complaints would never arise.

Right now, This guy might be totally legitimate, and come back with an apology saying he didn't know and that he's sorry for making an assumption rather than researching - that'd be great to see happen, as it shows that people really can be mature about a subject.

But it's when people continuously spout rubbish is where it becomes irritating, what people think about TWI releasing an "official mod" and giving out these mod tools and announcing it all pre-release is their own business and we shouldn't care, as that's their own personal idea, but when they use incorrect information to spread false information; that's when people should really think about educating themselves at whatever topic they are about to talk about.
 
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