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Hell-met

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1. Does the melee backstab damage bonus work on ALL specimen, or just the scrakes?

1a. Is there a backstab damage bonus even if you don't hit the head?

2. Is the best heavy-hitting melee the claymore or the fireaxe?

3. LAR or m14EBR?

4. Could the husk cannon overall be better when used by a sharpshooter?

5. Is the bullpup better at cleaning trash than the AK47?

6. Does the "duck+aim up" trick with shotguns still work?
 
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thresher3253

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1. Does the melee backstab damage bonus work on ALL specimen, or just the scrakes? It works on almost all specimens, backstabbed fleshpounds will rage even if you don't hit the head.

1a. Is there a backstab damage bonus even if you don't hit the head? Yeah.

2. Is the best heavy-hitting melee the claymore or the fireaxe? I suppose they are basically the same, but i'm not sure.

3. LAR or m14EBR? This depends on your playstyle. LAR has a better damage and is very cheap and useful even offperked, but the M14 has a better rate of fire and 20 bullets in a magazine.

4. Could the husk cannon overall be better when used by a sharpshooter?
No, the Husk Launcher is best used with a firebug

5. Is the bullpup better at cleaning trash than the AK47?
Again, it's a matter of playstyle. I prefer the AK since it's more powerful, but some players may prefer a larger magazine and low recoil

6. Does the "duck+aim up" trick with shotguns still works? Yup
Bold.
 
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Amber Glass

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1. Does the melee backstab damage bonus work on ALL specimen, or just the scrakes?

1a. Is there a backstab damage bonus even if you don't hit the head?

2. Is the best heavy-hitting melee the claymore or the fireaxe?

3. LAR or m14EBR?

4. Could the husk cannon overall be better when used by a sharpshooter?

5. Is the bullpup better at cleaning trash than the AK47?

6. Does the "duck+aim up" trick with shotguns still works?

1. Yes. backstabs will stun scrakes if your zerker level is high enough.
1a. yes, it does more damage as any perk hitting with melee from behind

2. it depends on preference. For headshots, the difference between the two is negligible, for body shots, the claymore is MUCH heavier hitting, the katana does more damage on bodyshots than the axe, but the axe has a 1.25x HS multiplier.

3. Both. LAR to stun scrakes and pick off sirens and husks, M14 for trash and speeding up that scrake kill.

4. depends on the situation, firebug gets splash damage and a higher ammo count, but sharpshooter gets a small damage bonus to HS due to the husk gun also dealing impact damage.

5. maybe on lower difficulties, on higher ones definitely not.

6. yes, crouching and aiming up does more damage with shotguns.
 
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Althamus

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Couple points to add:

Backstab I believe (but don't quote meh) does double damage when you hit any zed from behind with a melee weapon in any circumstance.

As Amber said, LAR hits harder but slower and can reload shot by shot, EBR fires faster and NEEDS to headshot things but does less damage. Most sharpshooters take both for a 15/15 loadout rather than taking one and a something else.
Although IMHO, this combination is now surpassed by HC/Xbow.
Xbow now fires at dobule firing rate, and the M99 put in deals massive damage as well, so is easy to clear sc/FPs with. There's not much point in investing a load of skill and tactics into killing big things with LAR/EBR if other guns can just do it without a problem, and not much point in taking LAR/EBR without the intention to kill big things (which is kinda the sharp's role).
 

Hell-met

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Also something that has been bothering me for a while : what exactly makes a gorefast attack in motion or not? Sometimes they can follow and swing but sometimes they're just like stalkers.

it's a kind of silly randomness that could mean life or death. I'd prefer if they either moved or stood still 100% of the time.
 
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Splatpope

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Also something that has been bothering me for a while : what exactly makes a gorefast attack in motion or not? Sometimes they can follow and swing but sometimes they're just like stalkers.

it's a kind of silly randomness that could mean life or death. I'd prefer if they either moved or stood still 100% of the time.

I suppose they stop moving if you're close enough when they attack, but if they give chase and they get close enough, then they'll transform you into sushi
 

Hell-met

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so willingly "touching" one should stop it still. Then you can just backpedal to avoid the swing. If you keep running then they'll catch up.

makes sense. I'll keep that in mind, this should save a couple of health points.
 

Splatpope

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so willingly "touching" one should stop it still. Then you can just backpedal to avoid the swing. If you keep running then they'll catch up.

makes sense. I'll keep that in mind, this should save a couple of health points.

And this works with most other specimens too. (Most notably the patriarch)
 

Amber Glass

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so willingly "touching" one should stop it still. Then you can just backpedal to avoid the swing. If you keep running then they'll catch up.

makes sense. I'll keep that in mind, this should save a couple of health points.

not always, the gorefasts will randomly do their "charging attack" i forget how often, but scary ghost had the percentage of how often this occurs in his specimen information thread which can be found in his sig
 

Azukki

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5) M4/Bullpup/AK are all roughly equal for the job of killing trash zeds, until HoE difficulty, where Bullpup can no longer decap trash with single headshots, and becomes very lackluster.
 

Amber Glass

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It's worth noting however, that relative to the AK the M4 has mediocre irons, an exceedingly high ROF (to the point where it becomes a bane), and less-than-stellar bodyshot damage. To get anything out of it you have be a master of hip-shooting headshots and do it in single-shot.

i quite disagree, while the M4 irons are more obstructive, i find them to be quite accurate and 3 round bursts from the M4 are quite effective in dealing with any trash specimens.
 

Amber Glass

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wait what? how is accuracy a null point? you should be aiming for headshots as commando regardless, and 3 round bursts are quit easy to manage without burning away all your ammo, plus you get a few extra clips with the M4 to compensate for the times when you are hitting bodyshots.
 
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Amber Glass

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lol splat that was intentional, i was hoping someone would point that out :p

for the record, i do know the difference between a magazine and a clip.