Question about TF2 hats and a little else.

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LightsabeR

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1. If they're delayed less than a week after pre-orders start and not long after the RELEASE DATE is announced, yes, I am disappointed. It was bad planning on TWI's part.
The delay was ONLY two weeks. That's a very short time in a games development cycle. VERY short.

You can blame TWI all you want, but video games being delayed is nothing unheard of, it happens all the time. It even happens to big developers, tho more rarely, since they can borrow people from other projects to help out with the project that has fallen behind schedule. TWI does not have this luxury.

Why are you disappointed that they are working hard and trying to polish the game as much as possible before it releases? Would you rather it have bugs and that might be easily exploitable by hackers?

And again, the delay is not half a year, it's not a couple of months, it's JUST two ****ing weeks.
2. The "no telling date"-policy causes even more grief to them imho. Just look around here and on steam forums. How many posts a day about "WHY NO BETA" "WHEN IS BETA" "WAT IS BETA DATE"?
You are wrong.

Also, it's not that they don't want to tell us, it's that even they are not 100% sure yet when they will be ready to move on to the final stage of beta.
3. Well, that's good. My hats don't show up for anyone else. Which results in me being not very happy about it.
Are those hats integral to you enjoying TF2? Did you pre-order RO2 mainly because of those hats?


Exercise some god damn patience!

PS! Sorry if I sound a bit hostile. :( I'm not really a mean person.
 
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Poerisija

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The delay was ONLY two weeks. That's a very short time in a games development cycle. VERY short.

You can blame TWI all you want, but video games being delayed is nothing unheard of, it happens all the time. It even happens to big developers, tho more rarely, since they can borrow people from other projects to help out with the project that has fallen behind schedule. TWI does not have this luxury.

Why are you disappointed that they are working hard and trying to polish the game as much as possible before it releases? Would you rather it have bugs and that might be easily exploitable by hackers?

And again, the delay is not half a year, it's not a couple of months, it's JUST two ****ing weeks.

You are wrong.

Also, it's not that they don't want to tell us, it's that even they are not 100% sure yet when they will be ready to move on to the final stage of beta.

Are those hats integral to you enjoying TF2? Did you pre-order RO2 mainly because of those hats?


Exercise some god damn patience!

PS! Sorry if I sound a bit hostile. :( I'm not really a mean person.


1. It was still very bad PR-stunt for them to delay it so soon after starting pre-orders. It caused a lot of bad talk and grief on forums and among gamers. You can't deny this. I ordered DDE, I'm getting in the beta earlier so not a huge grievance to me.

2. They gave a hint of "couple of weeks or so of press playing and after that ready to start final phase". Might as well post a "Beta starts after 22nd august."

3. No, they are not but I paid for them and I'm 100% entitled to HAVING them shown to other players too. Cos, you know, I PAID for them. The fact it wasn't the main reason for choosing DDE doesn't change anything.

I am patient, I'm just saying it TWI has pulled some bad stunts lately. I'm sure game will be wonderful when it does come out, but they could've been a lot smoother this month.
 

The Algerian

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Concerning the hats, it's more a TF2 problem than a RO2 problem, it happens quite often in this game that I can't see someone's weapon or hat.

It's not TWI's fault, sorry.

And the other stuff either if you ask me.
Two week delay, big deal, b
 
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LightsabeR

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1. It was still very bad PR-stunt for them to delay it so soon after starting pre-orders. It caused a lot of bad talk and grief on forums and among gamers. You can't deny this. I ordered DDE, I'm getting in the beta earlier so not a huge grievance to me.
So if they had started pre-orders a half a year ago and announced the delay as they did, you'd be more fine with it? Or do you think they did it on purpose to trick you and to get your money?

It shouldn't be a "huge grievance" for anyone, since it's only 2 damn weeks. And it's not like they are just going "haha! got you! gonna make you wait 2 more weeks! what an idiot you are for buying our game!". They are trying to make the game better for YOU. They are doing everything in their power so that YOU can have a nice smooth experience once the game launches.
2. They gave a hint of "couple of weeks or so of press playing and after that ready to start final phase". Might as well post a "Beta starts after 22nd august."
How is that any better than simply not giving a date and releasing beta when they are ready?
3. No, they are not but I paid for them and I'm 100% entitled to HAVING them shown to other players too. Cos, you know, I PAID for them. The fact it wasn't the main reason for choosing DDE doesn't change anything.
Yes it does. You should think to yourself: "hey, these guys are a relatively small company and are trying to make an FPS game that caters to us, the PC gamers. Maybe I should give them some slack and not complain about those TF2 hats that I don't really need anyway".

Pounding your chest and stating that you are entitled to it because you paid for it isn't helping anyone. The hats are working for most people. The devs are busy with getting the game ready for release, do you think it's a good idea to ask them to take time out of their busy schedule and fix this little insignificant issue that you admitted isn't even the main reason you pre-ordered the game?

I am patient, I'm just saying it TWI has pulled some bad stunts lately. I'm sure game will be wonderful when it does come out, but they could've been a lot smoother this month.
Ok then.
 
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The Algerian

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I have some strange feeling that the beta will start on 22nd.


We should all stop having this feeling, the more we are, the stronger the feeling gets.
If we're wrong in the end, we'll all be very disappointed. :p

Edit: fixed. ^^
 
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Poerisija

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So if they had started pre-orders a half a year ago and announced the delay as they did, you'd be more fine with it? Or do you think they did it on purpose to trick you and to get your money?

It shouldn't be a "huge grievance" for anyone, since it's only 2 damn weeks. And it's not like they are just going "haha! got you! gonna make you wait 2 more weeks! what an idiot you are for buying our game!". They are trying to make the game better for YOU. They are doing everything in their power so that YOU can have a nice smooth experience once the game launches.

How is that any better than simply not giving a date and releasing beta when they are ready?

Yes it does. You should think to yourself: "hey, these guys are a relatively small company and are trying to make an FPS game that caters to us, the PC gamers. Maybe I should give them some slack and not complain about those TF2 hats that I don't really need anyway".

Pounding your chest and stating that you are entitled to it because you paid for it isn't helping anyone. The hats are working for most people. The devs are busy with getting the game ready for release, do you think it's a good idea to ask them to take time out of their busy schedule and fix this little insignificant issue that you admitted isn't even the main reason you pre-ordered the game?


Ok then.


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Once again, I'm not complaining about the delay, but they way they announced it. I'm just saying they should've been able to foresee it and just put the original release date a bit further back. Considering they only put up release date shortly before pre-orders started, they either calculated wrong how long is polishing it up gonna take or something unexpected came up. If it's the latter, I'm sure everyone would appreciate just saying so.

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And it'd stop the endless speculation and questions about "when iz beta". Better than the current "lock all topics give no answer"-policy.

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I didn't even check what the bonuses for DDE were before I bought it. I'm still expecting that something I paid for to be working. I didn't ask the devs to fix it, I was just stating that it's disappointing that my pre-order hats aren't actually working and was asking if it's something that's happening to everyone or is it only me. You can re-read my original post on that. I know it's not a common issue and will contact steam about it. We can now give it a rest.
 
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Nachoguy5

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1. Release date is certainly more "2deep4u" now that it's on the 13th and not the 30th. And I can completely understand needing more time to polish the game before it's released

2. I didn't feel like paying an extra 10 dollars for stuff I can unlock myself and an incomplete version of the game I'd get a few weeks later anyway, so I can't gripe about the beta not being released yet.

3. I have my hats and wear them. But occasionally other players can't see them. It's random almost. Ah well I'm sure it'll be fixed. Frankly it's just a hat in a game I only play because my friend is so addicted to it now and insists I join him half the time XD
 

LightsabeR

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1. Once again, I'm not complaining about the delay, but they way they announced it. I'm just saying they should've been able to foresee it and just put the original release date a bit further back. Considering they only put up release date shortly before pre-orders started, they either calculated wrong how long is polishing it up gonna take or something unexpected came up. If it's the latter, I'm sure everyone would appreciate just saying so.
It's not like they are hiding something from us. What would be the point? Delays happen in software development, that's just how it is.

What I believe happened is that the bug squishing and polishing just wasn't going as fast as they initially predicted when they announced the release date. They realized that delaying the game might be harmful, so they decided to try and still somehow get the game ready on time. When it finally became apparent that it's simply not doable, they announced the delay.
2. And it'd stop the endless speculation and questions about "when iz beta". Better than the current "lock all topics give no answer"-policy.
Yeah, sure, it would stop the "when iz beta" spam.

But what if they announce the date and by some unforeseen reason the final beta stage gets delayed a few days? Do you think people would just go "oh well, I can wait a couple of more days"? Nop. Whey would whine and rant just like they did when the release date was delayed.
 

Cpt-Praxius

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No prob with my hats. The very first map I joined I had people commenting on them.

The only issue I had was the first person textures of the KF models..... which look fine to everybody else in 3rd person.

Which just made me wonder..... we know what 1st person is and what 3rd person is.... what's 2nd person?? :confused:

It's not like they are hiding something from us. What would be the point? Delays happen in software development, that's just how it is.....

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