RO2 PzB-38/9 or PzB-41 for Germans?

[aaz777]

Well have you played Ostfront? better yet, you like Russia with all your heart? then dont play Ostfront as AT class. The differences will drive you nuts.

lol look my status

 

[aaz777]

Well, of course, you put Real life weapons of course they looked better. But in-game, it looks pathetic.

And where do you get 45mm? I thought it was 40mm MAX? From what sources did you get that?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/14.5×114mm here, for example. I also had another link, but i cant find it now.

 

[chuy]

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/14.5%C3%97114mm[/URL] here, for example. I also had another link, but i cant find it now.

The projectile has a muzzle velocity of approximately 1,006 meters per second and can penetrate 40 millimeters of steel at an incidence of 60 degrees at a range of 100 meters, or 32 millimeters at a range of 500 meters.

It says 40mm at 60 degrees at 100m. hmm You may be right.

 

[aaz777]

Russian wikipedia says that PTRS can penetrate 50-60 mm maximum

 

[aaz777]

It says 40mm at 60 degrees at 100m. hmm You may be right.

and its only 100 m, on less distance it can make more damage. So it is possible that PTRS can penetrate 50 mm

 

[Eremin]

The penetration calculation arn t so easy as many think, have that value don t mean that it will always penetrate 40 mm. Whit this i just want say (as physics student) that for have realistic calculation all the pc should work only for that. Ps don t forget that tanks was also made with metals alloys, so that parameter is made on simple steel?? And which kind of steel??

 

[chuy]

and its only 100 m, on less distance it can make more damage. So it is possible that PTRS can penetrate 50 mm

Ah yes. So PTRS/D CAN indeed penetrate tigers.... you heard that GERMAN TANKERS?

 

[Eremin]

As i writed we can t use this parameter cuz according to them all penetrate all. Real life was 100000 different from that number on paper

 

[chuy]

As i writed we can t use this parameter cuz according to them all penetrate all. Real life was 100000 different from that number on paper

Yea in real life there was SMG jams. You want to add that too?

 

[Blitzk.-Bob]

Yea in real life there was SMG jams. You want to add that too?

That's a different argument than the one that Eremin brought.
The wikipedia page does not deliver any necessary real life data, steel hardness differs from time to time even in the same tank.
A armor plate from 1940 was different to one from 1945 in an important quality aspect even if it had the same thickness.

Armor plate thickness isn't all we need, but the only thing that wikipedia delivers.

 

[chuy]

That's a different argument than the one that Eremin brought.
The wikipedia page does not deliver any necessary real life data, steel hardness differs from time to time even in the same tank.
A armor plate from 1940 was different to one from 1945 in an important quality aspect even if it had the same thickness.

Armor plate thickness isn't all we need, but the only thing that wikipedia delivers.

Well if memory recalls, the tiger 2 had AwFUL armor compared to the tiger and that was 1945. *snif* you smell that? I smell the PTRD doing some WORK on later war tanks!

 

[Jpz38 Hetzer]

I think your severly underestimateing the king tiger and over estimating the PTRD

 

[chuy]

I think your severly underestimateing the king tiger and over estimating the PTRD

Tell me yes or no, german armor was getting weaker as the war went on? Ptrd can penetrate top and hull side turret I believe. It can penetrate the top amd kill the gunner.

http://www.fprado.com/armorsite/tiger1.htm


And what aaz777 is true. Penetration is suppose to be higher than 40mm because we are engaging these tanks in game usually under 100m. Tank isnt tanking so much