Put a scope on the Winchester

[Colonel Panic]

Seriously, as it presently stands, I can't think of any reason ever to use that rifle... it's no more accurate nor easier to aim than any pistol, and it lacks the high rate or fire or fast reload of the handcannon, without having any real increase in stopping power... the only thing anyone ever uses them for is to sell them to the trader for an extra 100 lbs at the end of the wave.

Giving it a scope, even a simple 1.5x crosshair scope, nothing fancy, would at least make it useful for clocking headshots with relative ease over the pistols with their more restrictive views down the ironsights.

 

[nutterbutter]

Seriously, as it presently stands, I can't think of any reason ever to use that rifle...

3 headshots drop an FP. LAR is deceptive powerful.

 

[Man And A Half]

I always thought the Lever-Action should get a bayonet on its alt-fire. Make the rifle still use Sharpshooter, but the bayonet use Berserker, to allow them to pick off Crawlers and be able to melee without having to switch. The bayonet thrust would be powerful and have considerable reach, but it would be slow and require a greater degree of accuracy.

 

[Temstar]

it's no more accurate nor easier to aim than any pistol

Come again? Best iron sight in the game?

without having any real increase in stopping power

More damage per shot than every other gun in the game (40mm grenades, rockets and bolts not withstanding)? Does so much damage it stuns Scrakes on headshot and Husks with bodyshots?

Giving it a scope would actually be a nerf in some situations. Scopes are slower to shoulder than iron sight and 1.5 magnification won't really help even for snipering, considering the excellent iron sight LAR already have. Plus scope goes against the whole "The Gun that won The West" image of the gun.

I do like bayonet, but I don't think LAR can fit one. So I previously suggested a new gun for this combo:
http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=41410

 

[SMIFF]

I think this would be pretty cool and useful actually, id use the LAR alot more then.

However, the LAR is still fine how it is now

 

[YFGHNG]

That is true. The LAR is powerful for a (tier 2?) weapon especially in the hands of a steady SS. It's only because some people I see tend to mistake the LAR for a shotgun because of the similar actions.

 

[KingJoker]

the LAR can body shoot any specimen except sirens if im correct at level 6. (Sirens+ cant body shot...)

LAR's scope is freaking awesome and i actually prefer it compared too the crossbow .

no scope on LAR! It would ruin the LAR!

 

[dextronaut]

the winch is fine without a scope guys. KF mod had this same talk years ago and the same conclusion was met: no scope on the winch.

 

[zombinex]

powerless weap, it's ok without a scope

 

[Murphy]

No to the scope, but I could live without that ring-thing.

 

[RoBoT]

No to the scope, but I could live without that ring-thing.

like in mod

 

[FPK_I_AM_CONAN]

The winch is a very fine weapon, apart from the sheer awesomeness of the looks and the mechanics involved in its use (I nonetheless miss the "hold-button-for-reloading" from the dark ages of KF soooo much!!!), its firepower is considerable, and in the hands of a sharpshooter (a real sharpshooter, mind you, not the rifle-wielding subclass thats so popular right now) it is THE best weapon for its price in early game and only needs to be discarded in favour of the crossbow.

Considering what I feel is the job/feeling of the sharpshooter perk, it is far more fitting than the rapid fire M14.

Man, I miss the Winch/Hunting combo times of KFMod...

 

[HaTeMe]

Perhaps make altfire attach/remove a scope.

 

[Jaesperson]

lol?
and 3rd attack button makes you use that scope

 

[Major Liability]

I actually like the lever-action just how it is, it's my favorite suicidal berserker gun until wave 6 when I switch to crossbow. A scope would be a disadvantage in my opinion, especially since I can get headshots across the map with irons anyways.

What I would like to see is a very powerful (Maybe a 10" Raging Bull in .500S&W?) 5-shot scoped revolver that is light enough to be carried with the crossbow, for the extremely accurate players who want to be real sharpshooters and specialize fully in long-range headshots. No speed loaders either - you'd have to load each cartridge one at a time, so while good hits would be extremely powerful, misses would be quite expensive. That would also work well with the sharpshooter's improved reload speed.

 

[HaTeMe]

lol?
and 3rd attack button makes you use that scope

Wha? Youd press mouse3 or w/e button it is by default, it will attach a scope, and you use mouse 2 to aim with it. Press mouse3 again to remove the scope and use the ironsights instead. Whats the problem with that?

 

[YFGHNG]

Hmm..actually now that I think about it, I'd prefer a smaller ring iron sight on the LAR. The big ring annoys me sometimes.

 

[HalfDemon]

3 headshots drop an FP. LAR is deceptive powerful.

One of the best lines I have heard on a thread, mainly because I agree with you

 

[-[SiN]-bswearer]

3 headshots drop an FP. LAR is deceptive powerful.

not in suicidal it doesn't but yes, the LAR is deceptively powerful best for insta kills on husk/siren headshots and stunning scrakes. usually takes 4-5 headshots to kill a scrake, 5-6 for a FP.

the current ironsights are just fine and i see no reason to give a 19th century weapon a modern scope.

 

[Johnny86]

if im not mistaken, the LAR has the second highest headshot multiplier (2.0) in the game. this makes it a head popping beast even for non-ss players. in my opinion, the LAR is a zerkers best secondary weapon.

this is the first ive heard that someone didn't like the sights on the lar. if they bother u too much, try the HC. its not as dmg heavy as the LAR but has lots of ammo and a fast fire rate.

oh and i love the M1 w/Bayonette idea. THAT would be a zerkers best friend. lol