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Problem/Exploit with the PTRS vs T-34

LogisticEarth

FNG / Fresh Meat
Sep 24, 2007
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Pennsylvania, USA
Recently, I've noticed that the T-34 is extremely vunerable to the PTRS from the front, almost ridiculously so. Against a skilled AT guy, it seems that you can trash the T-34 with your first magazine, and before the tank has any chance to respond. It often goes something like this:

Hit 1: MG down
Hit 2: Driver down
Hit 3: Loader down
Hit 4&5: Commander killed/turret traverse disabled/main gun damaged

All within a few seconds. It's increadible annoying and unrealistic, at least to be happening so frequently.

What may be happening is that PTRS is, for some reason, able to penetrate the front of the T-34's turret on a regular occasion, and kill the loader. Since it seems that AI crewmembers will very quickly warp into the loader position when he is killed, it is possible to just keep nailing the crewmember in the loader position, and completely decrew the tank down to the commander, who they then pick off last.

This is increadibly frustrating, one gunner who knows what he's doing will basically be able to keep the tank completely out of action, and if two are present, forget about it. Seeing how there are four AT gunners on a full server, this is a bit of a problem.

Has anyone else experienced this? So far I've only seen the problem on the T-34
 

LogisticEarth

FNG / Fresh Meat
Sep 24, 2007
831
132
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Pennsylvania, USA
Most people have said that the T34 seems to have tissue paper for front armor.
It's odd, because I know I've seen many people plink away all day at my front armor in a T-34, and I can even deflect the odd shot from a PIV. But when the guy knows where to shoot, it's lights out way too quickly.

I can't even test this out myself because it seems you need a half-full server to even spawn tanks.
 

Nenjin

Grizzled Veteran
Apr 30, 2009
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It seems like when I get in the Panzer, the first shot is a crew kill, the second or third shot gets the commander, and the 4th puts them down.

It's like 20% of the time, one of those front armor shots to the T34 is just magical. And yet to you can pound 10 shells into the non-critical areas of a Panzer's flank...and it does nothing.
 

skullman86

FNG / Fresh Meat
Aug 7, 2011
284
69
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I would be willing to help test. Maybe get a enough people to spawn tanks and take turns firing at them with various weapons :)

It would be good practice, and being able to map out each tank's weak spots would be useful info for the player base.
 

Mangley

FNG / Fresh Meat
Aug 7, 2011
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105
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I think there may be some issue like the angle of the armor being incorrect in the collision mesh causing shots to penetrate even when they are at an angle where they should be ricocheting off.
 
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Field Marshal Rommel

Guest
Most people have said that the T34 seems to have tissue paper for front armor.
I think the AT rifle is either overpowered or the ammo/crew hitboxes are clipping through the tank and are outside the armor.
 
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MillioneMarkus

FNG / Fresh Meat
Jun 30, 2010
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10
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- T-34's weak spot on the left side of it's front turret armor (coaxial MG). This makes disabling or even destroying the T-34 from the front and huge distance way to easy.
PZ4 has no such weakness on it's turret or front armor plate. Even the MG and Driver view ports seem to be invincible.

- THE RELOAD BUG: Choice mentioned it already. But he is not completely right about it. When using the Panzerb
 

Derpus

FNG / Fresh Meat
Mar 16, 2011
535
126
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I've been blown up by 1 PTRS bullet to the front of my T-34, no joke. And I see what op described happen very often. Were anti-tank rifles really that effective against it?
 

Kerc Kasha

FNG / Fresh Meat
Sep 11, 2011
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162
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I've been blown up by 1 PTRS bullet to the front of my T-34, no joke. And I see what op described happen very often. Were anti-tank rifles really that effective against it?
they should only be able to penetrate the rear of the T34, or the top/bottom and maybe some weak points but right now... armour? what armour
 

FoulOleRon

FNG / Fresh Meat
Sep 7, 2011
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Doubtful it could penetrate the T34 / PIV frontal armour anywhere. The PTRD could sometimes penetrate up to 40mm armour at 100m which would basically rule out a frontal penetration. Throw on top of that the bullet would often shatter against the armour instead of penetrating and what you have is a weapon that's pretty much useless except as an anti-material weapon to be used against half-tracks, trucks, etc. Aiming at the viewing ports was a tactic that was abandoned in short order as it was pretty futile. Anti-tank weapons had to go the shaped-charge route before they could be effective against tanks such as the T-34 and PIV.
 

Zoring

FNG / Fresh Meat
Nov 21, 2005
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Perth, Western Australia
Hit just to the right of the barrel on the T34, from front on where the loader would sit, pop pop pop pop. At any range that we have in RO and it works. Isn't it weird that we can hear bullets hitting tanks from any range?
 

501st Airborne

FNG / Fresh Meat
Feb 6, 2007
26
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I would be willing to help test. Maybe get a enough people to spawn tanks and take turns firing at them with various weapons :)

It would be good practice, and being able to map out each tank's weak spots would be useful info for the player base.
I would be really interested in seeing/helping out with this. really curious as to where all the different weak points on the tanks are.
 

Placebo Cyanide

FNG / Fresh Meat
Oct 12, 2010
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inexcess.us
Hit just to the right of the barrel on the T34, from front on where the loader would sit, pop pop pop pop. At any range that we have in RO and it works. Isn't it weird that we can hear bullets hitting tanks from any range?
IIRC headshot's helmet pings do the same thing
 

Serventis

FNG / Fresh Meat
Sep 16, 2011
2
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You can actaully 1 shot a russian tank with a AT if you aim for the tanks left hand side just inbetween the turret and the base of the tank ive done it plenty of times, at one point the russian tank on the other team was letting me do it to see if it was really a one hit spot and it turns out it is.