And therein lies the problem. At no time, and in no way should the MP40, or any other 9mm firearm be accurate and desired anywhere NEAR 200m.
Go to the range and try it. It is not possible.
PPSh is dulled in close combat!
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And therein lies the problem. At no time, and in no way should the MP40, or any other 9mm firearm be accurate and desired anywhere NEAR 200m.
Go to the range and try it. It is not possible.
In many of the servers I've played in I've notice a firing delay. As in I pull the trigger and I see my weapon fire but the round doesn't land for half a second or so, This is at close to point blank range as well. This has gotten me killed most of the time in close range as my rounds inevitably miss. I have also had times where my weapons does not fire although there is ammo remaining in the mag.
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I thought the drum mag was notorious for jamming, hence the adoption of the stick mag. Also I think it's pretty much established that SMGs had excessive recoil in RO1 for balance purposes. It sounds like you're basing reality off of RO and not the other way round.
If you've ever been to a gun range you'd know that jams are commonplace. Where are they in this game?
gd1944 is a preety cool guy eh shoots facist and doesn't afraid of anything
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My feeling : PPSH rocks pretty hard. This gun is a beast.
I find the mp40 more random. Sometimes the bullets just don't find the target. Even in short burst.
But before complaining, we all got the learn again how to use these weapons at their best.
Come on, it's RO2, not RO1. The most wonderful part of RO1 was to start with the feeling of being such a "paraplegic blind dude with dummy-bullets", to finally (after so many hours of pure rape and raging) starting to master the weapons.
NO PAIN NO GAIN.
I find the mp40 more random. Sometimes the bullets just don't find the target. Even in short burst.
But before complaining, we all got the learn again how to use these weapons at their best.
Come on, it's RO2, not RO1. The most wonderful part of RO1 was to start with the feeling of being such a "paraplegic blind dude with dummy-bullets", to finally (after so many hours of pure rape and raging) starting to master the weapons.
NO PAIN NO GAIN.
What your saying is because the German one is better you want a buff to make your communist SMG the killer of the fascist correct ?
These Russians man.
First its about the T34 being worse than the PZ4 and now the PPSH next it will be about the LMG then over to the class limits.
The game is still in BETA im sure overall they will Improve the PPSH and buff certain other aspects of the game to suit everyone give them a chance.
One word for you; Suppression.
I've noticed that when I take even the slightest amount of suppression, my bullets go everywhere, except where I am aiming, making the life of the Semi-Auto Rifleman difficult.
This.
In 90% of situations the PPSh is much better than the MP40, just make sure to fire in short rapid bursts.
There's a bug of some sort that's hard to recreate. I used the PPSh quite a bit yesterday and twice I unloaded an entire clip at 5 paces distance into someone and it didn't even do a thing. One guy came up at me and cracked my skull open while I was changing clips, so it's not a lag thing I would think. Besides I was playing on 50 or less ms ping servers. I think there are a couple of bugs still to be ironed out and they're working close to 24/7 in order to make it as best as possible when it's released in a couple of weeks.
Quite honestly, after the initial fiasco of the loading screen (which wasn't found until they were really loaded up - hence the reason for the beta), the game has been really quite stable. A few glitches here and there and some mesh issues. Hopefully they'll bring on some new maps soon in order to test those out with a large player base.
Hit detection at very close ranges is indeed off. It's not a PPSh problem. Many a times I ran into someone, shot my bolt action rifle at his chestm and died a second later when he unloads on me, even though I know there is NO way I missed. Happened to me dozens of times so far.
No innuendo intended, by the way.
One issue I've had with the PPSh though is after reloading a clip I go to fire and it doesn't fire - as if it had an empty clip. This happened four or five times last night, to the point where I would shoot a short burst after loading a clip just to make sure it registered.
The PPSH-41 is the bane of my existence. I swear, over 50% of my deaths are attributed to it.
However I was having this "hit registration" problem as well with my MP-40 where I'd unload into someone and not a scratch to them. I think that's why the SVT-40 and G-41 have been shining in CQC.
However I was having this "hit registration" problem as well with my MP-40 where I'd unload into someone and not a scratch to them. I think that's why the SVT-40 and G-41 have been shining in CQC.
Really? I find the LMGs to be way OP since you can now stand and shoot Rambo style while in the old RO, you pretty much did it for ****s and giggles (Not hitting anything with that recoil)
I've been doing better CQB with an lmg than either of the two smgs.
But with all these different opinions, I guess it really is about taste.
I've been doing better CQB with an lmg than either of the two smgs.
But with all these different opinions, I guess it really is about taste.
Ironsights.. Its there for a reason.
Besides, at times the PPSH in RO1 was redicilous when it came to hipshooting compared to the MP40 >_>
And in my own experience. The PPSH still dominates the close quarters fighting.
And the nice change of the MGs is great. You can finally practice the feared "stormfiering" without the MG flying into the air(which was plain silly). I have been wanting this possible for ages <3
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you mean stormfiring outside of the basovka trenches, cleaned them up several times methodically gunning everyone down with the mg
Man, I want to cry!
I was outguned by G41 many times today, within 5 meters and no Iron Sight. (Hipshooting)
As you all said, PPSh-41 should rule the closest range fight, just as within 5 meters. But with RO2's new settings, PPSh's hipshooting became useless! Cannot hit anything! This SMG should enable me to shoot while running, just like in RO1. But now, I can't shoot effectively without Iron Sight. I think in realism, PPSh should not be used this way.
I don't mind its inaccuracy at long range or mid range, don't make the most perfect close weapon become a mid range auto rifle. I just want the hipshooting accuracy back!
I was outguned by G41 many times today, within 5 meters and no Iron Sight. (Hipshooting)
As you all said, PPSh-41 should rule the closest range fight, just as within 5 meters. But with RO2's new settings, PPSh's hipshooting became useless! Cannot hit anything! This SMG should enable me to shoot while running, just like in RO1. But now, I can't shoot effectively without Iron Sight. I think in realism, PPSh should not be used this way.
I don't mind its inaccuracy at long range or mid range, don't make the most perfect close weapon become a mid range auto rifle. I just want the hipshooting accuracy back!
