Possible to beat Suicidal with only 2-3 people?

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I want to clear Suicidal acheivements, but I've only got a few friends who have Lv5+ perks. Before I convince them to join me, I'd like to know if it's even possible to do it with a small group. I'd like to hear experiences from how you guys have done it and what the class makeup was, how you killed the Patriarch, etc
 

Nekomancer

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Why shouldn't it be possible? The game scales the difficulty with the amount of players. More player equals more specimen.
 

EonSeig

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The game is actually somewhere about "optimal" with 2 to 3 players; one or 2 guys to deal with the small fry and cover the flanks and one guy to handle the big mobs. Of course this isn't nearly as fun as with 6 people.
 

Mailorder

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I was under the impression that more players was better since there is more class diversity. Are there classes I should stay away from? I'm being told that Demolitions is a no-go for Suicidal and that the Crossbow is the best weapon. How does the new Firebug do in Suicidal?
 

dogbadger

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I was under the impression that more players was better since there is more class diversity. Are there classes I should stay away from? I'm being told that Demolitions is a no-go for Suicidal and that the Crossbow is the best weapon. How does the new Firebug do in Suicidal?

not on his own without a heavy hitter but say with an SS could do well in suicidal, and if adding a 3rd perk more maybe medic or berzerker phaps?

after this patch where amoungst other things the crossbow may lose effectivness you might find the support more needed as a class that can take big fellas with the Autoshottie.
though SS still has the m14 option...
 

Honda

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2-3 players is better than 6 players spawning a wave, and 1 or 2 die in the beginning (happens often when trader time was exceeded and group gets separated) :D
 

Compass

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It's possible to beat some Suicidal maps solo with Sharpshooter at the moment.
 

Rainydaykid

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I use support a lot on suicidal, works well with a commando or someone to cover the slow reloads.
 

Undedd Jester

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It is possible to beat any map on solo suicidal, playing any class.

Deffo, I beat offices with Firebug before they even brought out the Mac 10. I always loved sharing my screenie out to people who kept saying "The Firebug is totally useless".

Ironically I actually find that the MAC-10 serves very little use to me, since I'm so used to taking on everything with the FT. Only thing it comes in handy for is Husks :)
 

CandleJack

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3 Aussies beat the Suicidal beta server with about 240-300 ping each.

Considering how much easier the non-Beta KF is, then of course it is.

Though you have to know what you're doing, anything is possible; given the right circumstance.
 

kingkong

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for decent players it's actually easier with less people, and if you're ranked up it doesn't really matter what perk, since your damage stays the same and enemy health/numbers get scaled so much lower. seems like the optimal "ez threshold" is under 4 players, once you pass that it becomes real suicidal difficulty, fewer than that is really just 6p hard.
 

HaTeMe

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I want to clear Suicidal acheivements, but I've only got a few friends who have Lv5+ perks. Before I convince them to join me, I'd like to know if it's even possible to do it with a small group. I'd like to hear experiences from how you guys have done it and what the class makeup was, how you killed the Patriarch, etc

Why shouldn't it be possible? The game scales the difficulty with the amount of players. More player equals more specimen.

This. The difficulty is scaled, and in fact its probably easier with only a few players because you cant really run out of ammo and theres less bigger specimens.

I'm being told that Demolitions is a no-go for Suicidal

Well, usually demo is in fact pretty useless on suicidal. In order for it to work out, you need a good team which can protect the demo who is useless in close-combat situations. Pipebombs can be very useful against fleshpounds and such, but you also need quite a lot of money to buy all that every round which all boils down to teammates and their support again.

But then theres also the smoke problem which distracts teammates.

Id only recommend it for very advanced players.


the Crossbow is the best weapon

For now, yes. Can take out anything with one headshot, even fleshpounds. Assuming you are a level 6 sharpshooter (or actually I dont think you have to be level 6?). After the next update, it wont be as powerful anymore so enjoy while you can :p

How does the new Firebug do in Suicidal?

Crappy. Its probably about as useful as demo with the exception of being able to handle close-combat sitations much better. Before the previous update, he also ran out of ammo all the time because you had to hose down gorefasts and other quick specimens on certain maps. Now that you have Mac10 the ammo lasts a bit longer but seeing how every specimen in suicidal is so damn fast, you cant really rely on burning damage which means you have to waste ammo on hosing down targets and using full-auto on the Mac.

This of course depends on the map, for example in West London he can do
pretty good as long as he stays at the back of the group and uses Mac10 on semi-auto to set targets on fire from afar, but on maps like Bedlam its pretty hopeless.

If you are playing with a 4 man team Id recommend using
1. Support with hunting shotgun and regular shotgun. You probably dont want AA12 because its so damn prizy and runs out of ammo quickly, but maybe its useful on a 3-4 man game where you have less specimens? Anyway just make sure you have the hunting shotgun because the doublebarrel shot is extremely powerful.
2. Sharpshooter with crossbow or... bleh... m14. Very effective against anything.
3. Medic with crossbow, or katana (and ofc medicgun). Crossbow is good for assisting the sharpshooter in taking down scrakes/fleshpounds, katana good for quick escapes and close combat.
4. Commando just because he's cool :p

Or if you have a 3 man team you might want to leave the medic out.
 
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CandleJack

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If you are playing with a 4 man team Id recommend using
1. Support with hunting shotgun and regular shotgun. You probably dont want AA12 because its so damn prizy and runs out of ammo quickly, but maybe its useful on a 3-4 man game where you have less specimens? Anyway just make sure you have the hunting shotgun because the doublebarrel shot is extremely powerful.
2. Sharpshooter with crossbow or... bleh... m14. Very effective against anything.
3. Medic with crossbow, or katana (and ofc medicgun). Crossbow is good for assisting the sharpshooter in taking down scrakes/fleshpounds, katana good for quick escapes and close combat.
4. Commando just because he's cool :p

Or if you have a 3 man team you might want to leave the medic out.

Speaking as a medic, i don't go medic if i'm the third person out of three. I go Commando/Support/Sharpshooter. Medic is pointless with just two people to heal, you might as well kick in and kill some specs effectively.
The damage output of three people is better with three non-medics than with two non-medics and a medic.