Tactics Poll: Suicidal Satchel Assault - Yes or No

[Musketeer]

There has been an ongoing discussion on people using a satchel in a suicide attack to get multiple enemies. We see this used both against infantry and armor.

Some have said it is a valid tactic that fits in with the game and was used in WWII. I have the opinion that suicide attacks did happen in WWII but they were very rare and the frequency in which they are used by some members of the community stinks of cheesy gaming. What do you all say.

 

[K.Johansen]

Its stupid.

I guess some people think its funny or something.

 

[orangepine]

I realy don't care... I won't vote.

If they take it away, then so be it, if they leave it in the game, then so be it aswell.

The fact that not everyone gets a satchell charge means not everyone is going to be doing it. Anyone can abuse any form of weaponry, wether it be using the satchel charge to tk, or using a live nade to accomplish the same thing.

Its is up to the admin to kick out abusive players.

I don't see how these actions can be cheesy, when only a small handfull of players in a server get the satchell charges. For crying out loud its a guy running into the open. If you have the slightest of skill you should be able to kill him.

If they do the objective and don't tk you, I realy don't see the problem.

w/e

 

[PORSCH]

I play as german zapper 98% of the time, and use the satchel without killing myself, BUT there are some situations (rare ones) in wich you are just doomed, you are already dead, so in that case, I grab my satchel and try to take with me as many Ivans I can, IRL it happend, pretty often? guess not, but who really knows that?, loyalty and fanatism mixed together equals a big boom.

BUT I hate to see some jackasses who just go full frontal and boom, thats just the way they play, thats not the way, its a last resort.

 

[Kavelin]

on thing if sapper charge isnt realisit why did the Russians, Japanese, Vietnamese, and Koreans, do it in all of their wars? Personally i say you should read 3 books about the tacics used in WWII before voting.

 

[Rameusb5]

I have no problems with the suicidal satchel charge. I would like to see some kind of penalty for death though.

In addition, the satchel charge is WAAAAY too effective against armored vehicles. It needs adjusting.

 

[PORSCH]

the satchel charge is WAAAAY too effective against armored vehicles. It needs adjusting.

yes it is and IRL, it was

 

[Heinz]

complete, utter, gamey garbage. would love to see a team/server take a stand and start dis-allowing this cheap, cheesey, BF2-kiddie crap.

warn. kick. ban. simple.

 

[=GG= Mr Moe]

I don't agree with an intentional suicide charge. Its one thing if you find you can't "Get the hell outa Dodge" fast enough after deploying your satchel, another to keep doing it on purpose.

Should probably leave it to admins

no vote....

 

[Ghad]

It is gamey and boring,

 

[REZ]

Who cares. Non-issue. If it happens to bug you, then play on a server that enforces whatever their version of 'realistic tactics' happens to be (i.e. a realism server). Pubs will be pubs.

You'll never catch me using the suicide satchel move, but I do use them in certain situations as big grenades, or distractions, or smokescreens. Satchels are handy tools on the battlefield.

 

[Heinz]

. Satchels are handy tools on the battlefield.

you take out your tool on the battlefield?

 

[stebbs]

You can't force people to play any certain way, especially in a pub, no matter how much you don't like or think how unrealistic it is. Just be happy not every person has satchels, it could be a lot worse. Not voting either way on this one, not important enough.

 

[Theodrake]

You can't force people to play any certain way, especially in a pub, no matter how much you don't like or think how unrealistic it is. Just be happy not every person has satchels, it could be a lot worse. Not voting either way on this one, not important enough.

Don't play orel cause everybody has satchels

 

[PORSCH]

You can't force people to play any certain way, especially in a pub, no matter how much you don't like or think how unrealistic it is. Just be happy not every person has satchels, it could be a lot worse. Not voting either way on this one, not important enough.

I agree

 

[Phoenix-D]

Don't play orel cause everybody has satchels

I think I'd die of old age before someone managed to satchel-bomb me on THAT map.

 

[Wiglaf]

Gamey and stupid. Russians shouldn't even get clown cars they were used by divisions and highlevel units. They took a hike long time ago when real tanks arrive.

Tank riding should be introduced on bigger maps however (both sides used it).

 

[aag567]

Who cares. Non-issue. If it happens to bug you, then play on a server that enforces whatever their version of 'realistic tactics' happens to be (i.e. a realism server). Pubs will be pubs.

You'll never catch me using the suicide satchel move, but I do use them in certain situations as big grenades, or distractions, or smokescreens. Satchels are handy tools on the battlefield.

You read my mind.

 

[[5.SS]Strother]

Tank riding should be introduced on bigger maps however (both sides used it).

On Orel you can move your tank beside a sandbang and have everyone jump on, I did this once because my two squad mates were driver and gunner and I would have to be the hull gunner and be bored to hell, so I decided to jump on top so I could actually have a view, and if I saw a tank I would get inside. But you shouldn't have 10 guys on top of your tank on OREL, those 10 guys need to be in their own tank.

 

[=OF=odinfish]

This is a ridiculous poll...it's very easy to misconstrue the situation of a player assaulting with a satchel charge. For one, you usually have to get in close whether by chase or crawl and wait for a position to apply. Either way you're going to have to find some cover as the charge has mondo blast range. With that said, the blast effectiveness of the charge itself, imo, is modeled just fine. I've had charges go off and only damaging a tank...it's all about placement! Next, if that were the goal of a player to run suicidal satchel, how long before that player just quits the game entirely? Doesn't sound like a game I could play or find "fun" if all I was skilled in was dying and maybe taking someone with me. Sounds like noobs to me who are doing this and I'm sure they'll grow out of it or move on to another game. I wouldn't advise kicking, banning, or otherwise...if you're one of those who believe so then you need to remember that this is a game and only a game.