Poll: Artillery

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badastle

FNG / Fresh Meat
Aug 2, 2011
140
32
0
California
Cannot really say. It all comes down to the Commanders and Squad Leaders. I've seen it completely wasted and unhelpful, but I've also seen it devastate the other team with good communication between the Commanders and their SLs.
 

teapot156

FNG / Fresh Meat
Sep 5, 2011
34
4
0
Needs to be turned down greatly, its nearly impossible to survive it if you are not in a building. Which doesn't make sense.

It seems like after all the salvos are completely the area has 100% distribution. Which is unrealistic.
 

monster

FNG / Fresh Meat
Jul 17, 2006
334
10
0
The calibre of arty/mortars/rockets is unknown, and could be arbitrary.

What really needs to be understood is what calbres are being used, and what would be the historic frequescy/chances of use in a tactical combat situation.

If I had a battalion commander calling down anything other than 50mm/60mm mortars into close combat, he'd be sacked.
 

NinetyNine

FNG / Fresh Meat
Sep 7, 2011
329
133
0
Needs to be turned down greatly, its nearly impossible to survive it if you are not in a building. Which doesn't make sense.

It seems like after all the salvos are completely the area has 100% distribution. Which is unrealistic.

Lie down in a bomb crater or trench. That works for me unless there's a direct hit inside my cover.
 

LugNut

FNG / Fresh Meat
Feb 12, 2011
2,288
117
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There's needs to be a longer wait after the initial spawn, I've been blown up in the first 15 seconds of a round. Other than that, I think it's pretty good.

Get rid of the spotter plane though...... I digress. ;)
 

Richey79

FNG / Fresh Meat
Dec 13, 2009
512
202
0
I was on a server today playing Red October as Axis.

Used artillery, and the cool-down period was 8 minutes. 4 for mortars. It was long enough for me to really think about where I was dropping it.

I must have killed five guys with rifle to only one with artillery, although you could argue the artillery may have had some blocking effect on Ivan.
 

Actin

FNG / Fresh Meat
May 19, 2009
1,453
250
0
Netherlands
Tbh, I think the artillery is far weaker than in RO1.

Where in RO1 you are blown to pieces dozens of time per round; In the 20 hours I play RO2, I have been blown up for only 5 times or something.

Ninetynine's post explains it all. I always lie down (and behind or in cover when available), it isn't really that deadly that way.



Also, try to flank... I rarely walk in chokepoints, which is safest.


Also the 8 min cooldown is far too high on Pavlov, most of the time you can only have one arty before the map is over.
The rest of the maps are far better.
 

Deist

FNG / Fresh Meat
Sep 12, 2011
56
21
0
I hate the laser guided danger close artillery in RO2. I have died 3 times to the same barrage before, because it goes on forever. Not to mention it frequently crashes my game.

People complain that you cant have firefights in RO2 because the guns are too accurate. I disagree. You cant have firefights in RO2 because as soon as you make a firing line it gets blown to hell by way to accurate artillery.

It also bothers me that artillery can kill you on the bottom floor of a 3 story building without damaging the building.

On 64 player maps I have seen commanders get 250 kills when the next guy on the list who is actually assualting gets 30 kills. This is broken and not fun.

If the maps were bigger it may not be as much of an issue but as it is, You will never engage enemies at more than about 300 yards. That is "danger close" and would only be used in the most dire situations.

My suggestion:
reduce the barrage to 2-3 shells.
make them mortars instead of triple digit millimeter ordinance.
give them an extended cooldown such as 10 minutes (600 seconds).
or
Just make mortars that can be mounted like the mg-34 tripod. give them basic controls like horizontal aiming and range setting.

I freakin love RO2 even on my ****ty old pc is runs fine except when the 5 minute barrage starts. I usually just stare at the ground in the hopes that I wont get the "RO2.exe has stopped working".
 

Nenjin

Grizzled Veteran
Apr 30, 2009
3,879
480
83
Sub-Level 12
I thought there were some patches notes to the effect of:

-Limit the amount of artillery for both sides on map X.

Well, it doesn't really seem like there's a limit other than the time. Artillery pretty much rains down every 2 minutes like clockwork. The no-artillery zones pretty much seem to be non-existent on some maps still.
 

Josef Nader

FNG / Fresh Meat
Aug 31, 2011
1,713
1,165
0
When artillery starts falling = Seek cover, get low, get behind something, and don't move till it's over.

It's for supressing infantry, and it does that very well. Get damn supressed when you are getting shelled. Keep your head down and don't try to run through the explosions. CoD taught gamers that you can run through arty and mortar barrages unharmed. When 155mm bombs are dropping on your head, you don't try to move or escape, you get down on your face and hope one doesn't land in your foxhole.
 

Arseassin

FNG / Fresh Meat
Sep 19, 2011
18
2
0
My only real problem with artillery is the inaccuracy at which it targets via binocs. I cant even begin to tell you how frustrated I get on sparta when I try to call arty on the church full of camping mkb fanatics, only to realize that the binoculars have yet again marked my target THROUGH the church

Its as if the mark target trajectory ignores buildings and other obstacles, which makes it nearly impossible to use effectively on a map where you spawn downhill of the enemy.

I know everyone is going to disagree, but I think the commander should be able to call artillery based on map coordinates using the radio. I mean the map is already there, I can visibly see the building and what grid its in.. Why must I go out and look at it through my binoculars before I can use it?