Please Stop with the Ridiculous Berzerker Weapon Ideas/Class Suggestions in General

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Drathamus

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Well, the berserker represnetation is seriously lacking. It's a public forum to voice opinions and such, why create a thread disproving of one's idea? I dunno... I won't get caught up into it.
 

Nanostrike

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May 19, 2009
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Well, the berserker represnetation is seriously lacking. It's a public forum to voice opinions and such, why create a thread disproving of one's idea? I dunno... I won't get caught up into it.

Because 90% of the ideas suck.

"Berserker isn't powerful enough! Add a Halberd/Add Brass knuckles/Add a flail" comments are rampant.

That said...people made topics asking for a rifle for Sharpshooter...we got it. They specifically requested an AA-12 for the Support in one topic...guess what we got? They asked for a demoman perk in general and we have one.

The devs do listen to things here, if it's a good idea that catches their interest. But posting dumb ideas that they ignore and have to sort through (The 50,000 Firebug threads asking for Molotovs and Oil Slicks, for example) are pointless crap that, in all likelyhood, slows down the good stuff!
 

jernmajoren

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I would like to know who decides when an idea is good or bad?
When someone post an idea or suggestion presumably it is because they would like something added to enhance their enjoyment of the game.
The only people that have final say about whether an idea is good, bad or fits the game universe is TWI not any single player.
That the OP thinks that some ideas are ridiculous or stupid is not really relevant to whether or not people should make suggestions they think would be cool.
If someone makes a suggestion that is either unreadable or that you disagree with, no one is required to respond to it.
But when someone responds the least they can do is to be polite and explain why they disagree.
If the same suggestions are posted again and again make a reference to the other thread and explain its a re-post of a suggestion.
Telling people to stop making suggestions will only result in people doing so altogether out of fear of being ridiculed, especially those that are new to this forum.
 

Nekomancer

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Oct 23, 2009
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A good idea is when it's well designed already. Just saying "Molotov Cocktail" is dumb, there are already the fire hand grenades, so WHY the Mollies? The WHY is the important part. If you have an idea, you should have an argument why it should be implemented.

Same with posting weapons without any reason behind it. Everyone can post a list of weapons. That doesn't make that idea good.

I'm for posting new ideas, but only if the ideas are sophisticated. That doesn't mean they should already know the damage output or reload speed. But there should at least be a good answer to the simple question: "Why?"
 

KayossZero

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Sep 24, 2009
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I'm really tired about (insert stupid weapon that doesn't fit the game's style here) threads. This isn't a matter of opinion. Some weapons just won't work with Killing Floor's style.

The katana was taking it about as far as it can go. Please, no cattle prod, sword and shield, or (horror of horrors) halberd.

A halberd? In Killing Floor? Can you think about what you're saying before you post it, please?

Along the same lines, it's understandable that everyone's pissed off, especially the newly ex-'zerkers, about the 'zerker "nerf". I pose this: 'zerkers needed to be nerfed after the Heavy Metal patch, but not this much. On another note, there's a 95% chance that your "wonderful idea" for a new class mechanic will be outright ignored. Most of the suggestions I've read on these boards have either been impractical or make the class overpowered. Also, I'm sure that TripWire is working on the problems of their own accord, and have already either delineated solutions, or are on the way to them. Thus, outside info doesn't help much, if at all.

So, if you tl/dr'd, Summary: Stop with the stupid 'zerker weapon ideas that don't fit the game. Also, please think about the feasibility of the suggestions you make, and recognize that your shiny new "weapon list" thread is one of approximately 5,000 identical threads.

If you agree with me, /sign this, and maybe people will see the thread title and refrain from exercising their grotesque medieval fetishes while posting.

When the Chainsaw is worse than the Knife I'd say something drastic needs to be done, not only that but clicking every attack on the Katana is simply an exercise in repetitive motion there's no strategy involved and it should go back to the way it was.

If those aren't changed then yeah I'd say it's time for some new melee weapons and anything from Warhammers Chainsaw sword to Light Sabers is on the table.
 

[UIT] Akame

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May 5, 2009
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Well, the berserker represnetation is seriously lacking. It's a public forum to voice opinions and such, why create a thread disproving of one's idea? I dunno... I won't get caught up into it.
The flood of idea would be ok if people actually took the time to think out their ideas. Spamming threads that have no thought (or worst the dreaded gun list threads) dilutes the forums like dumping sludge into a pristine lake. Eventually it will be so polluted it will take too much effort to clean and no reasonable person will want to use it.

But my guess is that it will sort itself out in a matter of weeks anyway.
 

9_6

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Sep 4, 2009
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I would like to know who decides when an idea is good or bad?
When someone post an idea or suggestion presumably it is because they would like something added to enhance their enjoyment of the game.
The only people that have final say about whether an idea is good, bad or fits the game universe is TWI not any single player.
That the OP thinks that some ideas are ridiculous or stupid is not really relevant to whether or not people should make suggestions they think would be cool.
If someone makes a suggestion that is either unreadable or that you disagree with, no one is required to respond to it.
But when someone responds the least they can do is to be polite and explain why they disagree.
If the same suggestions are posted again and again make a reference to the other thread and explain its a re-post of a suggestion.
Telling people to stop making suggestions will only result in people doing so altogether out of fear of being ridiculed, especially those that are new to this forum.
I don't talk about ideas, just how they're being presented.
A thread that goes like:

"Hi guys, here are some weapons I'd like to see:

M12X3
FAMAS
X349
M14MK2.5
AK9000
Ninja stars
Throwing axes
Throwing knives
Throwing darts
Landmine
Molotov"

Is a waste of everyones time.
If you don't even take your time to explain your 'ideas', why should anyone bother reading them or worse, having to look up those weapon serial numbers (only to find out that they're all assault rifles doing the exact same thing as what the commando weapons already do) to even know what you're talking about?
That's stupid.
If someone explains why that shooter has a place in the game and which niche -that no other gun fills- it fills, that's ok.
 
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Oldih

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Nov 22, 2005
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I'd rather have two drills ala Drill Man in Megaman 4 that you can shoot repeatedly and of course, you could drill your opponents to death.
 

Fedorov

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Dec 8, 2005
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lets add those things the Fleshpounds have as a berserker weapon =)

Edit for: Omg, I readed the link posted above and someone actually seriously suggested the FP weapons O.O

Edit 2 for real sugestion: I still would like to see a claymore sword, slower, but with more power than the katana, and being something Scottish fits much better in game than the Katana, and something that can cut several enemies in 1 swing, something like an equivalent of the X Bow but for melee range
 
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AgeAss

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May 16, 2009
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i want bare hands...thats right just bare hands that punch and as secondary break the neck of those ugly things.

doom had the punch...we need it, too.


ok, ok "buying" bare hands might be a bit weird but nonetheless.
 

xyrz

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Jul 27, 2009
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I want a chainsaw that is silent and will dismember ALL THE LIMBS AND HEAD even if you aimed at the foot.

The alt fire will cause the blades to fire and will home-in on all the zeds in the map doing an insta-kill. The blades will move at the speed of light.

And finally... LEVEL 6 players will kill the patriarch by just HOLDING the weapon.

Please add that PLOX!
 

anthracy

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Jun 17, 2009
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I want a chainsaw that is silent and will dismember ALL THE LIMBS AND HEAD even if you aimed at the foot.

The alt fire will cause the blades to fire and will home-in on all the zeds in the map doing an insta-kill. The blades will move at the speed of light.

And finally... LEVEL 6 players will kill the patriarch by just HOLDING the weapon.

Please add that PLOX!

The only problem with this is once you alt-fire, you have no blades left.

Make the chainsaw regenerate blades by using some organic material that Horzine was working on.

I mean, for balancing purposes.
 

jernmajoren

FNG / Fresh Meat
Mar 12, 2007
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Improving on suggestions and ideas

Improving on suggestions and ideas

Both.

What would possess someone to think this is a good idea?

Appearantly someone did, though it IS rather over the top.
Perhaps the worst ideas could be weeded out if suggestions where submitted in some standardized way.

As an example a form perhaps similar to something like this:
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Step by step guide to submitting ideas & suggestions:


A:Check to see if anyone else have submitted similar suggestions in the past by using the seach function on the forum.
Has it been posted before, no need to do so again, check earlier comments and add your own if you think that the idea suggested was good but overlooked instead of posting a new thread about a alread debated subject..


B:Title: Should explain the topic and also which category it fits into
 

acidchalk

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May 24, 2009
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It's england for petes sake! If that really happened i'd so hit up a museum for a halberd lol.
 

gusone

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May 2, 2009
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Ageazz's fisticuffs idea is excellent. I'd want that as well as a staff like Monkey's that can crowd control prodding Zeds away as well as side swipe and overhead attacks.