Please stop speeking bad about zerk.

[HoopleDoople]

Thinking about it...zerk is actually the most fun/active perk to use!

The game does not get so boring when kiting as when camping....standing still for long periods of time is boring in real life too!!!

Being active is more fun! Standing still and shooting is not as fun as kiting and you need be more aware and thus you interact more with game then camping!

I fail to see how Berserker kiting can be more fun than camping. Consider:

1) Kiting takes a lot longer than camping. During each wave camping teams are constantly under attack; kiting teams spend at least half their time running away. Then is technically active, but I'd rather be standing still and shooting things than simply running.

2) Berserker kiting involves only two classes, mass zerk and a medic or two. This reduces variety and the fun that comes from it.

3) Teamwork is all but irrelevant when kiting. All it takes is one good Berserker to finish off a 6 man HoE wave. Thus the only truly needed teamwork is kiting in the same direction so you don't trap everyone between two groups of enemies. Drastically reducing teamwork in a cooperative game pretty much guts the main source of fun.

I'll be the first to admit some camp spots are incredibly dull. But if you're willing to forgo the boring little rooms with only one entrance I promise you far more fun can be had camping. If it's still too boring for you that likely means you need to increase the difficulty for increased challenge and fun.

 

[Maddoxx]

I fail to see how Berserker kiting can be more fun than camping. Consider:

1) Kiting takes a lot longer than camping. During each wave camping teams are constantly under attack; kiting teams spend at least half their time running away. Then is technically active, but I'd rather be standing still and shooting things than simply running.

2) Berserker kiting involves only two classes, mass zerk and a medic or two. This reduces variety and the fun that comes from it.

3) Teamwork is all but irrelevant when kiting. All it takes is one good Berserker to finish off a 6 man HoE wave. Thus the only truly needed teamwork is kiting in the same direction so you don't trap everyone between two groups of enemies. Drastically reducing teamwork in a cooperative game pretty much guts the main source of fun.

I'll be the first to admit some camp spots are incredibly dull. But if you're willing to forgo the boring little rooms with only one entrance I promise you far more fun can be had camping. If it's still too boring for you that likely means you need to increase the difficulty for increased challenge and fun.

Kiting is more fun simply because it requires more awareness of your surroundings and it requires more decisions = i use my senses more actively then when camping and thus it is more stimulating for my mind.

When i camp, i am only waiting and i know what directions the zeds will come already!

 

[becoming-insane]

I find camping in tough spots a lot more fun than zerk kiting. I mean very intense spots, where zeds pour very fast from different directions and you even barely have time to reload your weapons. You have to be concentrated constantly, because there's no time to rest, and in contrast to kiting games, a couple of big mistakes can lead to a wipe. Also, you can't just run away from danger so easily and take a breath, like you can in kiting games.

Btw simply running away is most often the best decision for surviving during kiting games, but camping in intense and fast-paced spots has more decisions to think about, and you have to choose one very quickly.

 

[Maddoxx]

I find camping in tough spots a lot more fun than zerk kiting. I mean very intense spots, where zeds pour very fast from different directions and you even barely have time to reload your weapons. You have to be concentrated constantly, because there's no time to rest, and in contrast to kiting games, a couple of big mistakes can lead to a wipe. Also, you can't just run away from danger so easily and take a breath, like you can in kiting games.

Btw simply running away is most often the best decision for surviving during kiting games, but camping in intense and fast-paced spots has more decisions to think about, and you have to choose one very quickly.

OK then, cant disagree with you on this one! I concur!

 

[Snebbers]

Berserker is only OP if you know how to play berserker. I mean attack patterns, range, fire rate, how to kite, how to not get hit. All those points are important. I have seen a lot of people just rush in like an idiot and get mauled then complain that the medic did not help.

Berserker is actually pretty darn useful on HoE for killing trash, in a team game people can save ammo and solo.... Well everything dies as long as you have some room to move. Getting surrounded by crawler spam when you're unaware (as a lot of people are) is almost certain death.

 

[nejcooo]

we just want to make TWI balance berseker LEVEL 6 aka can kill anything and sprint like a boss, take damage like a boss

 

[Stricken]

Berserker is only OP if you know how to play berserker. I mean attack patterns, range, fire rate, how to kite, how to not get hit. All those points are important. I have seen a lot of people just rush in like an idiot and get mauled then complain that the medic did not help.

Berserker is actually pretty darn useful on HoE for killing trash, in a team game people can save ammo and solo.... Well everything dies as long as you have some room to move. Getting surrounded by crawler spam when you're unaware (as a lot of people are) is almost certain death.

For how long you play this game? 10 days? What level are you, 2? kk.

 

[|WC|Capt.525]

For how long you play this game? 10 days? What level are you, 2? kk.

Calm down Mate. Zerker does take some skill to learn, to adjust to having to be up close and personal instead of at range. After you get the basics down-pact, however, it is an incredibly easy class to play/survive as.

But this is my opinion, and he is allowed to have his, so stop attacking him would you?

 

[Snebbers]

Played 1100 hours, 10 days is a bit back. currently sat at a nice 15m zerk xp.

Spoiler!

 

[HoopleDoople]

Berserker is only OP if you know how to play berserker. I mean attack patterns, range, fire rate, how to kite, how to not get hit. All those points are important. I have seen a lot of people just rush in like an idiot and get mauled then complain that the medic did not help.

Berserker is actually pretty darn useful on HoE for killing trash, in a team game people can save ammo and solo.... Well everything dies as long as you have some room to move. Getting surrounded by crawler spam when you're unaware (as a lot of people are) is almost certain death.

It does take a little practice to not totally suck as Berserker, but not much. With damage resistance and a movement speed bonus, the Berserker is far more forgiving than other classes. A mediocre Berserker is merely OP; a good Berserker is (almost) game-breakingly OP.

 

[Snebbers]

I know that, I was speaking for people who are new to the game or low level. Level 6 Zerk is crazy powerful, that dwarfs!? axe knockback mechanic is insane, It's a nice addition but it is definitely insane.

 

[<NUT> N]

Sorry, I think I have raised hackles on this subject, that was not my intention, just to stop bad-mouthing the zerk anything more, everyone hates them and I do not like it, because I like to play like zerk because I seems funny, not because it is better or worse, is that not all fps games can use melee weapons, and that's what I like about this perk, have fun and kill like a samurai (in the case of Katana) or a madman (in the case of Axe) or a medieval soldier, (in the case of Claymore), just think it's a fun class, if you think i play it only for the OP. Just tell me if you stunt an scrake whit axe and use hunting shotgun, double barrels, this is not OP?

Because the question here is, all people think, i deduced that for your all comments.
The people hate the berserker because is overpowered, only for that, but anyone say the armor of medic is overpowered, for this the best tactic for kill patty is medic + xbow, or anyone say i hate de demo because is overpowered, because can kill a fp in 2 seconds before he hurts anyone, and can kill trash better than any other perk, or the firebug is overpowered, because untill wave 5 can kil everything too muhc easy, and for highs waves if have husk cannon, can stunt scrakes and if headshot fps, can kill he some easy too, (is hard headshot a fp whit husk cannon, i know for experience).
Well i dont talk anymore about this, but really must enjoy the game and play for fun, and not only for survive the maps, i think that it is the worst of game, all ppl only think in i must survive i need the achiev, (i prefer say want, no need), and forgot that is a game for enjoy and have fun, is good finish a map, but if you die restart and rejoin.
No play the achievements page, play the game mates.

 

[<NUT> N]

Whit love N.

 

[Daughter of Evil]

I understand the reasons why people would say that the zerker is OP, but I think we have to step back and remember that not everyone plays the zerker the same way. Yes, some definitely do kite everything and destroy almost all of the zeds themselves, but personally, I don't find that all too enjoyable for two reasons:

1.) If I wanted to kill everything myself, I wouldn't be playing a co-op game.
2.) While kiting in the past, nine times out of ten, players are *****ing at me to simply rush the zombies and kill them all because I'm taking too long.

I tend to take advantage of the zerker's speed in order to support my teammates if they're getting swarmed, and take down long range nuisances such as husks and sirens, and of course the scrakes. Yeah, I die sometimes, and yeah, I'm probably not playing the zerker in an approved manner, but I don't really care. I'm having fun and that's all I need to know.

 

[<NUT> N]

I know how you feel, is the same for me, i like play zerk but only in zerk maps, not in all maps i join zerk, and im not the player that want kill everything in all game, and this is the problem, because lot of people think that is a challenge and the player who kill more is the best of the game and this is not truth, a 6 players team with no medic, probably die soon, but whit a medic probably survive fine all waves, and the medic maybe have 10 or less kills, and is too much important and maybe the best player of the game, and not the most killer. For this the people dont like play whit a zerk in a camp map, because the zerk kill more zeds than other that is only camping, or other zerk in a kite game, the mostly times i die as zerk is trying to save a teammate in troubles, and sometimes can do it but sometimes i die and he survive, i dont do it for got more kills i do it for help a mate, and for enjoy my co-op game, i know lot of players that are too bad zerks, and only want be the first in puntuation, and others that only want kill the bigs ones, and maybe dont know how, but they want kill the bigs.
But the only truth is too many people hate the zerk and say is OP, and say to TWI, make the zerk most weak, or more slow, or less resistance to damage, but i hope this never change, because if this change the zerk, can be a crap perk that anyone want to play, like is the commando, that i know lot of people that say is not a good perk, and is too much weak, or firebug in bigs waves, all hate a firebug in wave 7+, and if the zerk change will be the same whit this two perks. I like zerk, like commando, like firebug, like support, like medic, like demo, and dont like sharp, and for this i dont speak bad about it, dont say, the sharp is only for scrakes and husks, and fps, is a good perk, but people say the zerk is ridiculous OP, hehehe is fun the hipocrisy.

 

[nejcooo]

1.) If I wanted to kill everything myself, I wouldn't be playing a co-op game.
2.) While kiting in the past, nine times out of ten, players are *****ing at me to simply rush the zombies and kill them all because I'm taking too long.

defently! i've played almost 1000h and i hardly survived 2nd wave as commando on hoe, cause i had to run. doing this with any perk is very hard (ok if you are medic, and you got armor, and nice weapon it's not that super hard), while berseker LEVEL 6 can realy chill, cause his super speed allows him to escape
i think level 6 berseker should be as fast as level 5 is, or/and should have 30% resitance just like level 5 and NOT 40%