Pistol Combat

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The_Cook

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I'd like to see anyone fire a gun while running like thier lives depended on it. It's just not going to happen.
 

Kurtz

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Reise said:
The reason soldiers uncock their pistols when running is simply that if he manages to fall during his mad dash he won't also blow his own head off.
Then why don't you put the luger (or any other weapon for that matter) on safe? It's a single action handgun, so it's just as dangerous running around with your finger on the trigger with the luger as it is with the tokarev. Personally I think the only realistic thing to do is just have your avatar remove his finger from the trigger guard when sprinting. That's what it's there for, protecting the trigger so you don't have an accidental discharge.

Being required to cock the p38 before you can fire makes even less sense, since it's a double action. No need to do it manually, it's faster to just cock and fire it by pulling the trigger...
 
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{YBBS}Sage

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Lol, safety first?

I didn't put my 91/30 on "safe" when I sprinted with it today, but it would take some bizarre contortions to blow my own head off with it. :p

Cook: I fired at stationary targets that were like shooting at someone in the Basovka trench from outside today. I was only about 10 yards away, and walking.. It was actually harder than some people on here would think, and that was just WALKING.

Does the P38 have a half-cock position? I thought that was the TT33's safety...
 

Reise

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I don't know lol. The idea that it could happen while running (even though there's no way for it to happen) was just a crazy excuse I had for them uncocking the pistols during sprint. There's probably some other more logical reason they do this. I'm not sure why they do it at all though since like it was pointed out, it doesn't happen with the Luger.
 

{YBBS}Sage

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Nah, Reise, I actually agree with you. Running with a pistol cocked and hot isn't wise, even in a combat zone (certain rifles are another story, though.)

I hadn't noticed the Luger stuff... I usually use the P38.

Research time, to see if this makes sense or not...

Decocking the TT33 WAS the safety, I just looked it up, it used a half-cock position (though any imports to the US had an external safety installed per BATF regulations.) It's also SA-only... Answers that.

The P38 apparently was not only DA/SA, but had/has an external safety on the left side and what looks like a decocking mechanism on the slide. I will point out, though that I don't know if I would trust a decocking mechanism (I've heard of them failing and causing negligent discharges) and that running around with the hammer cocked on any pistol, safety on or not (I do know I never trust a safety) isn't the greatest idea in the world.

Oh, and firing a DA/SA weapon in DA mode? I have one word for it: sucks. Cocking the hammer on a pistol is so easy to incorporate into raising it that it doesn't really add any extra time.

The Luger... is hammerless so it can't be decocked (way ahead of it's time. Welcome back to the age of Double-Action Only pistols. :p ), and has an external safety located on the left rear of the pistol. Maybe they're engaging the safety where you can't see? Dunno.

As far as USING the pistols (since this IS tactics and all...) I prefer to aim center mass and give about three rounds rapidly. That usually puts them down for the count.
 

{Cap-Down}

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Praetorian Historian said:
I already do that without the morale boost. If I find you hiding in a spot we already own, I shoot you in the leg. And if I find you a second time, I shoot you in the back of the head and kick some dirt on you so nobody finds the corpse.


man people who camp annoy the hell out of me i always shoot the gun out of their hands they're usualy really angry at me but can't really do much as they have no weapon (unless a squad leader), i sometimes bayonet people in the legs too. When resorting to durastic measures i call in arty strike on the cowards....no heck i wouldn't waste such rescources and men such as them.