Well there goes all the extra fun 32 and 50 slot servers.
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTIUI5oXmjU[/URL]
those servers can still exist, just not as ranked which is how it should be.
Perk progression disabled as of update 1007
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those servers can still exist, just not as ranked which is how it should be.
That's pretty debatable honestly. It harder with more people, because scrakes demolish your entire team because they have scaled HP. You also get less XP, because there's more people trying to get at it.
But alas, it doesn't matter because it's gone. 8)
Do you think people leveled perks using custom code? They've done it with custom maps, and that's still possible.
Just tried recently, your level will back to where you were at before joining the server
Wow really?
Well thats a great first impression you leave on the modders TWI,make mods that nobody will use cause it de-ranks everything.
And for custom maps,you dont even support the re-directs properly.
So much for the ''full mod'' support.De-Ranking muts will empty Killing Floor 2 reallllllly fast,trust me on that one.
3 maps (that stutter randomly on high end GPU's),no mod support on horizon + 6 months until launch,doesnt sound good at all TWI this defo was unexpected from you.
Kinda hoped as a customer like any other customer you would focus on actual problems,not canceling fun for people.
Well thats a great first impression you leave on the modders TWI,make mods that nobody will use cause it de-ranks everything.
And for custom maps,you dont even support the re-directs properly.
So much for the ''full mod'' support.De-Ranking muts will empty Killing Floor 2 reallllllly fast,trust me on that one.
3 maps (that stutter randomly on high end GPU's),no mod support on horizon + 6 months until launch,doesnt sound good at all TWI this defo was unexpected from you.
Kinda hoped as a customer like any other customer you would focus on actual problems,not canceling fun for people.
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Yeah thats not what i meant,we got ours to work also on our own way without TW's help.
I'm just stunned by such a random decision to be top priority with so many things that are wrong in the game,they decide to turn off the switch on the fun?
And basically reducing KF2's playerbase,for like a reason ''game doesnt know about what mutator is doing''?
It wasn't random. There was a loophole in the security of the game so we closed it (along with several others). If those mutators had been loaded as mutators instead of serveractors they would have deranked servers from the start.
Security holes are important, especially in a game where stats are important. The massive player servers were also throwing off our stats collection (which is a major factor in how we make balance choices for the game). Any sort of mutator could have been loaded via that method (and we have reasons to believe some already were) to manipulate stats in anyway the creator wanted to.
If we wanted to "kill it", we could have. We didn't. Most of us find those servers fun (half the programming team was in one today).
The stats system is part of a walled garden, mods are a sandbox where anything goes. For now we are taking a similar aproach to how we treated Killing Floor 1. Mods can submit to be whitelisted (at some point) if they do not make changes to the core gameplay loop.
Security holes are important, especially in a game where stats are important. The massive player servers were also throwing off our stats collection (which is a major factor in how we make balance choices for the game). Any sort of mutator could have been loaded via that method (and we have reasons to believe some already were) to manipulate stats in anyway the creator wanted to.
If we wanted to "kill it", we could have. We didn't. Most of us find those servers fun (half the programming team was in one today).
The stats system is part of a walled garden, mods are a sandbox where anything goes. For now we are taking a similar aproach to how we treated Killing Floor 1. Mods can submit to be whitelisted (at some point) if they do not make changes to the core gameplay loop.
Oh well, looks like it's time to shift focus to create an alternative online subsystem. Not the first time TWI is pulling this and definitely not the last. Since KF1 we've been fighting the breaking changes almost every update so this ain't an exception.
*cough serverperks rework cough*
For those who want to try ^ https://udn.epicgames.com/Three/OnlineSubsystemSteamworks.html#Stats
*cough serverperks rework cough*
For those who want to try ^ https://udn.epicgames.com/Three/OnlineSubsystemSteamworks.html#Stats
Not really no as TWI locked all the perks from modding,Marco said that himself on his mod for scoreboard he released.
Well, I would definitely love to have perk progression with a lot of players. I wouldn't mind even taking a reduced XP rate for anything over 6 players, although I can see how that's going to cause problems for those not getting any sort of XP as this sort of promotes kill hording so to speak.
There is no such thing as perks being locked. Sure they are locked from being updated to steam servers, but serverperks worked because it completely replaces ALL of the perks with custom ones and saves progression to disk (or to a remote location).
I dont know how marco would do it but this is how I would approach such a problem; clone or subclass the base perk class, remake all the perks with my custom perk class. A hypothetical serverperks would then load a custom subsystem (disables progression and switches over, more research needed) that reads from writes to these classes and saves to disk.
Once the way the game loads is reverse engineered, then work can start
Nothing is impossible in code. Effort is merely a limiting factor.
There is no such thing as perks being locked. Sure they are locked from being updated to steam servers, but serverperks worked because it completely replaces ALL of the perks with custom ones and saves progression to disk (or to a remote location).
I dont know how marco would do it but this is how I would approach such a problem; clone or subclass the base perk class, remake all the perks with my custom perk class. A hypothetical serverperks would then load a custom subsystem (disables progression and switches over, more research needed) that reads from writes to these classes and saves to disk.
Once the way the game loads is reverse engineered, then work can start
Nothing is impossible in code. Effort is merely a limiting factor.
Goodluck with that as most of the major perk functions are marked as protected so you'd have to make new functions
