Old BF vet looking forward to my first RO game

[Iced Earth]

Hey all,

As the title suggests...I'm a vet of Battlefield 1942. I know these two games probably couldn't be farther apart on the 'arcade <------> realism' spectrum, but I'm really looking forward to RO2.

I've been playing 1942 since 04/05, and started my clan (Wake) in 06 (more of a 'community' now). Still have a public server, still get it rockin on a nightly basis.

That said, IMO its been a long time since a really great WWII FPS was released (forgive my ignorance on never having played the original RO ). I played Call of Duty: World at War when it was released (my first COD title), and that was good fun for awhile, but for me and my guys nothing seems to cut it like 1942.


As someone who has never played RO(2), what would you tell a TOTAL newbie to the game? I'm curious about the physics, cold hard stat facts (# of bullets to kill, body multipliers(?), general weapon accuracy, etc), and even general gameplay.

I'm a huge fan of all things WWII (small arms, armor, aircraft, most anything), and am definitely looking forward to seeing familiar faces in a shooter (Panzer IVs, T-34s, Mauser's, Mosins, DPs, MG-34s/42s, PPSh, MP-40, StG-44).

So uhh hello, and hope to see lots of you around.

 

[mistk�fer]

Welcome to the forums, it's always nice to see people from arcardish games being converted to the dark side ^^
IMO you should get the first RO to get an idea of what you can expect. It's cheap as f*ck nowadays, should be around 10

 

[=GG= Mr Moe]

Welcome to the Forums!

There is a confirmed Fact Thread that you can catch up on, plus all the other topics and discussions going on, including several Alpha Reviews, floating around.

 

[Nimsky]

As someone who has never played RO(2), what would you tell a TOTAL newbie to the game?

Stick with it and have patience. At first you'll suck, but once you adapt to RO's realism you'll get better.

 

[oldslowguy]

As an above poster said, get RO, it's a great game in it's own right, well worth the paltry $ it's going for now a days! Oh, and welcome to RO/RO2! TWB*SlowBull

 

[Fedorov]

I can't say much that others haven't said already... other that you have great musical tastes :IS2:

 

[HeyCarnut]

Welcome!

As said, get the first game. You will love it, after getting over the learning curve. That's the best preparation for the upcoming title.

Edit: In fact, I'm so sure you'll like the original, from an old BF hand (BF2 with IOG and The Unmanageables clans), PM me with your steam ID - I'll gift you a copy as a welcome...just for posting such a good intro post.

 

[hockeywarrior]

Welcome!

As said, get the first game. You will love it, after getting over the learning curve. That's the best preparation for the upcoming title.

Edit: In fact, I'm so sure you'll like the original, from an old BF hand (BF2 with IOG and The Unmanageables clans), PM me with your steam ID - I'll gift you a copy as a welcome...just for posting such a good intro post.

Take Carnut up on this offer, you won't regret it!

RO1 is a great game, even if it feels a tad buggy here or there. Once you get past the learning curve, you're going to have a great time. If you really like WWII weaponry, no other game can match the "feeling" of firing guns like RO does.

 

[spy81]

Stick with it and have patience. At first you'll suck, but once you adapt to RO's realism you'll get better.

Agreed. It's an acquired taste and has a steeper learning curve than most shooters, but with a little practice and coordination, it soon becomes a great experience in my opinion.

On a side note: Nimsky, are you the real Daedalus?

 

[Floyd]

By all means take carnut up on his offer.

Keep in mind RO:Ost is and older game and much of the animation and avatar oddities are said to have been eliminated with RO:HoS. The game speed is a lot slower and will probably feel 'clunky' to you in the beginning. As soon as you get over that hump and accept that you will die very violently and very often at the hand of some unknown and unseen assailant, then you'll start having some fun...... Its still great fun and a great game. We're all drooling with baited anticipation over RO:HoS....

Oh, and forget playing with the bots in RO:Ost. After 5 minutes of that, you should be good to go in MP.

 

[Private Who?]

Yes welcome to RO. Definitely take up that offer, and don't look back.

Remember, RO definitely has a learning curve, and it has it's quirks....but it is by FAR the best FPS out there until we get RO-2.

No game is more rewarding when it's played well and you're on a team that plays well together.

 

[timur]

Hi! Welcome to the forum!
I think you've already got most of the facts so far served on a silver platter, but I know that there are a few things that might also warrant your attention, while not being on there.

1)The Mods; yes, there are several already in production, such as Rising Storm (Pacific Front), Iron Europe (WWI), and that Vietnam one with the name I can't seem to remember . All of these look like near-proffessional, very extreme total conversion mods of good quality. Also, there is another one, I'm not sure on its status, that seems to have made progress (Poland vs Germany)

2)Free Content over Time: Well, its pretty much assured to happen, but we don't know for sure what it will be. TWI has hinted at perhaps fire-based weaponry, such as molotovs and flamenwerefers, but its far from confirmed. But what is assured is that TWI will continue adding free content to HoS, and from TWI's history it should be large amounts of it.

3)Stuff that was in ROOst: This is all the features in RO1 that a usually not stated around here, as everyone is so hyped about the new ones. RO1 itself had a number of innovative features, but I'm afraid that many of them go unstated around here. You probably know all of them by now, but if not, feel free to ask.

That should be it

 

[Mormegil]

Welcome to the community.

I'd just like to warn you about RO1 (aka ROOST), the learning curve and frustration you may feel getting into it won't be an issue in ROHOS (RO20).

So if you find yourself not enjoying ROOST (it can take a couple of days to really get it, then you're hooked), don't let it turn you off ROHOS.

 

[Flogger23m]

Get the original RO. It is cheap... not many servers, but you can probably get a general idea of how RO2 might play like.

You missed the sales - it often goes on sale for $5.

 

[smokeythebear]

Did you ever try forgotten hope for 1942 and bf2?

 

[Actin]

Hey all,

I played Call of Duty: World at War when it was released (my first COD title), and that was good fun for awhile, but for me and my guys nothing seems to cut it like 1942.

First of all, way too late, COD:UO was the last good one

Now seriously, I am playing ROOST for a month now. First two weeks were pretty confusing on what to do and especially how to do it. But I manage to help out pretty well these days.

Most important thing to realize is the reward you will get from the game (the satisfaction). It works very differently from other games.

Examples:
CoD: 5 kill streaks were needed to get the adrenaline flowing initially. Satisfaction when you reached it, although since that happened very often you needed to fight with just the pistol to keep the adrenaline flowing after a while (CoD4). Owning with a pistol in CoD4 was the only way to get the satisfaction out of it.

ROOST (anecdote): Me, with my precious bolt, hides out among my team members in a building, knowing germans are in the trenches 15 meters in front of us.
When rising up to check for enemies I see five submachine gunners running up and towards the building we are in. In panic, I fire one shot killing one of them instantly... followed by the dozens of bullets penetrating my skull.
I never had more satisfaction in a kill
K/D was 1.0, but I felt like a god knowing I managed to take one down (whom could have killed five of my friends if I missed him)

For me that's the most interesting and important difference between CoD-like games and ROOST/ROHOS.

 

[Grobut]

Welcome to the community.

I'd just like to warn you about RO1 (aka ROOST), the learning curve and frustration you may feel getting into it won't be an issue in ROHOS (RO20).

So if you find yourself not enjoying ROOST (it can take a couple of days to really get it, then you're hooked), don't let it turn you off ROHOS.

Yeah that's definately important to state, RO:Ost, as much as we all love it around thease parts, had it's fair share of flaws and shortcommings.

It was a small indie game produced on a tiny little budget by about 10 guys, and ran on an engine that was allready outdated before the game even started production, which not only hurt it's graphics (though the Dev's did an amazing job with it considdering), but also more fundamental things like the movement system and so on. It has it's quirks, it feels a little stiff and clunky at times, and it's learning curve is very unforgiving.


But that shoulden't put you off playing it, because it was an amazing little gem of a game when it was released, and it's still a unique shooter that has something special to offer, and it's well worth trying (just expect to spend about a week to get over the learning curve), and the skills you will learn playing it, will carry over to RO2:HoS for the most part.

But just don't think HoS will be exactly like this just with nicer graphics, because it won't be. HoS has a real budget, a propper game engine, and a much larger team behind it, and aims to vastly improve on the formula, and not just rehash it in a prettier coat of paint.
HoS will bring a ton of improvements and a whole slew of new features, and it will have a lower learning curve, so even if RO:Ost puts you off by beeing too hard to get into, just know that HoS will be a different beast.

 

[Private Who?]

While everyone's cautions about the original RO are valid, I think we'd all agree that the game is still VERY much worth getting. All we're saying is that after a few hours of playing, don't let the frustration wear you out. Stick with it, and pretty soon you'll 'turn the corner' and see what we see about it.

That said, however, I also agree that ROHoS will likely be very much easier on that learning curve.

 

[MÆST]

If anyone is thinking about giving RO1 a shot for the first time in order to prepare a bit for RO2 hit me up on steam. I'd be happy to join a server with you and show you the ropes.

maest41

If any forum mods read this, I can't get my steam ID to stick in my profile. I type it in, hit save, but it doesn't save.

 

[VariousNames]

As someone who has never played RO(2), what would you tell a TOTAL newbie to the game? I'm curious about the physics, cold hard stat facts (# of bullets to kill, body multipliers(?), general weapon accuracy, etc), and even general gameplay.

So uhh hello, and hope to see lots of you around.

Sir, I would like to give you a few hot tips to ease your transition out of the muck.

First of all, the best way to get acclimated towards RO is to buy the first one. It's only ten bucks.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/1200/[url]http://store.steampowered.com/app/1200/[/URL]

Red Orchestra features weapon sway, recoil models, and a ballistics sim that models travel time and bullet drop. The firearms, in other words, behave similar to real firearms. They are difficult to operate, but extremely deadly. It will take you only a couple of rounds to put someone down with a submachine gun, and generally only a single round with a full size rifle (even semi automatic rifles). Shots to the center mass are generally the end of the fight, limb shots are not. Leg shots slow movement, and shots to the hand cause players to drop their weapon.

One of the most original and technically incredible parts about RO is that your weapon can be stabilized on any flat surface. This reduces recoil and weapon sway and generally makes it easier to hit your target. This makes using cover a more natural part of the game and it tends to make weapon handling feel more realistic.

RO is not about circle strafing or wall jumping. RO is about weapon handling and using cover intelligently.

RO is also less about reaction time and more about carefully measuring your target and sending your bullet home.

Most gametypes in RO involve some variation on zone capture. Respawn time varies by server, but is usually around 10-20 seconds.

In a nutshell. Any questions?