Removing knockback for scrakes/fleshpounds would make knockback pointless. Anything else you hit with it is usually dead on one hit anyway. I say leave it alone. Its just fine how it is.
Official Dwarfs?! Axe Balance Thread
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the axe is fine as it is, whoever manages to knockback a scrake / fp without getting hit until it dies, props to you sir.
why not reward a team that keeps the route clear for a zerker who takes care of the fatties, be it with normal axe or the dwarven axe. both require some timing.
the downsides of the dwarven axe do already exist, thats kinda undeniable.
why not reward a team that keeps the route clear for a zerker who takes care of the fatties, be it with normal axe or the dwarven axe. both require some timing.
the downsides of the dwarven axe do already exist, thats kinda undeniable.
I think the knock back is fine, but for Scrakes and Fleshpounds on Suicidal and HoE, I think it should be a one time thing. As in, you can knock a Fleshpound and a Scrake back once. The next time, they stay up in your grill wanting some looove.
The timing for it is really not any harder than knifing a clot or gorefast.... and with the axe on sc/fp you dont even have to aim for a headshot.
axe is fine and fun. Must have another weapon with it. I run around screaming "I AM THOR GOD OF THUNDER!!!" I use the ZED for my lightning.
side note:
M99+xmas FP hit boxes=broke forever.
side note:
M99+xmas FP hit boxes=broke forever.
If you reduce the rate of fire anymore, you will actually have time to go brush your teeth until you can attack next.
You think knock back is OP, I say the real OP weapon for zerker is claymore, seriously, go play several rounds on suicidal or HoE with claymore and dwarf axe (in real game, not test map), respectively, then tell us what do you think and vote.
Finally someone who knows what they are talking about. The claymore is literally soooooo much more overpowered if you compared it to the dwarfs axe. like really I stated earlier, nobody uses the knockback effect on scrakes its just stupid and ineffective, a full 6 player hell on earth scrake takes 4 alt fire stuns to kill, it cant move and it stands still for you, why would you want to waste 20 seconds knocking it back letting it stay alive and rage for that long??
Knockback on Axe needs to go. Entirely. Either that, or don't allow FP's to be knockbacked at all when enraged.
Agree with removal of knockback of FP. this axe pretty much proves that the zerk can take on anyone now at any difficulty
Fixed that for you.
Zerker could already take down anyone and anything on any difficulty. This just makes it easier.
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If knockback is removed who would use it? lmao thats like a claymore thats half a second slower per swing with no benefit whatsoever. The knockback is not overpowered, especially on an fp, i mean are you kidding me? it takes longer time to face it and knock it back every 2 seconds than to kite it and chip at it every 2 seconds, the knockback attack is weak on an fp, it doesnt even do 300 damage to the fps 6k health. alt fire does 352 damage and you can still hit the fp every two seconds without it raging.
Just to be clear, the Dwarfish Axe is great for kiting FPs. It takes a bit longer as you need to use the primary fire for knockback, but the knockback is well worth it. It's normally quite difficult to kite FPs without taking periodic hits. With knockback pushing the FP away before he swings it is substantially easier to dodge the hits.
As far as damage if the wikis are to be believed it scales from 235 to 470 for the primary attack and from 325 to 650 for the alt attack. This is very slightly higher than the Claymore.
This.
If this wasn't treated as OP, then why did the xbow receive the same treatment and got headshot penalties on Sui/HoE? I think it's fair if the knockback was eliminated on Sui/HoE or reduced to the point you can't keep an enraged FP/SC out of your face like what ArmoredPuppy mentioned.
Funny how tons of people think the axe isn't OP. True, the axe is different, and removing knock-back all together would ruin the axe. I agree with you dude how the axe should have no knockback on Sui/HoE against Sc/FP