Not Another Weapon Suggestion Thread

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Ubermn

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Actually, yes it is. If you hadn't gotten the joke, it's modeled after an old movie nobody's ever heard of (Not Another Teen Movie). Anyways, seeing many weapons suggestions threads, I thouht, maybe I'm on to something! I like guns. What zombie exterminator doesn't? With that said, fear not, I kind of know (sort of?) what i'm talking about. Thus, here are my ideas, piled up for months.

I know about the whole MG suggestion and why it fails thing, and how it's probably gonna end up OP or something, but I'm sorta hoping my ideas balance it out.

-FN MAG, otherwise known as the M240B to the american military, L7A1 to the british military.
[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_MAG"][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_MAG[/URL][/URL]

I'm not quite sure what kind of damage this beast would put out, but realistically, it would be along the lines of the Ak/SCAR's damage due to the 7.62mm round all three use. However, this is a game, so i would assume in order to balance it out, it would be along the lines or in between the bullpup's and the AK's. How do you balance such a 200 round belt fed 7.62mm killing machine? I was thinking about it, and i thought about this. (for commando, as it would seem best fitting, maybe for support specialist for his gift of heavy lifting.)
-When fired, you are pushed back slightly, as with guns like the hunting shotty, and regular shotty(?).
-You can only use iron sights when crouched, or only for a set number of rounds when standing as firing it accurately, standing, in full auto/sustained bursts, it would be pretty hard, or so i would assume.
-The weight would be well... something really heavy. I guess that's up for discussion (as is everything else here),
-The pushback when firing can be used to your advantage if you guys are constantly on the move (like when your welds get busted, or when you're on a map that demands constant movement (like farm), or when you're running away from the horde because the rest of your team wiped), backtracking while firing, giving you a slight speed boost to sacrifice accuracy to some degree.
-Yes, that's alot of ammo. Like many games, this could be countered by a long reload time. I was also thinking, maybe the specimen count could rise for every MAG in play, but that may be more trouble than it's worth for one weapon.

Benelli M4 Super 90, also known as the M1014 to the american military (also in service with the united kingdom and austrailia)
[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benelli_M4"][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benelli_M4[/URL][/URL]
Ever wanted a shotgun that you didn't need to pump, but wasn't super expensive? Benelli M4! But why dun u jus put da AA12 on semi nube? Cuz it's liek, totally expensive.
-Damage similar to that of the AA12 or the regular shotgun
-smaller mag capacity than that of the AA12
-Faster rate of fire than the Pump Shotty
(I'm not quite sure if this has already been suggested, but I haven't come across it recently)

Mk. 32 Incendiary (for the firebug, of course!)
[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milkor_MGL"][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milkor_MGL[/URL][/URL]
I don't really think this idea will fly with you guys, but i think the firebug needs some love!
Okay, okay, so it doesn't really fire any kind of incendiary round, but M67 (hand grenade used in the game.... I think. At least it should be, but if memory serves me, the image is of an old WWII Mk.II pineapple grenade, or the british Mill(')s Bomb) doesn't in real life either.
-Longer range choice for the firebug (although range is already decent)
-SOME explosive damage
-basically, think the firebug hand grenade, but M32 styled.

AI AW50/AWM, Known as the L96 to the british military
[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L96"][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L96[/URL][/URL]
I know, i know, sharpie already has enough weapons, sharpie is OP, (also, i think someone else suggested this before me) and all that, but hear me out!
-IF AWM
-EBR damage body shots, headshot multiplier, blah blah
-Has a scope like the crossbow
-basically, an M14 with a scope, but much slower rate of fire
-IF AW.50
-much more body shot damage and bullet penetration, but no headshot multiplier (for balance, i guess)
-Scope only when crouched
-heavy
-knocks player back slightly like with the MAG i suggested earlier
-FOR BOTH
-Scope sway for harder shots (i would be shaking alot too if it were the zombie apocalypse)
-and uh... stuff.
So this idea wasn't very developed, it's open to discussion (again, as everything else here is).

HK MP5A5, MP5k, if you want to keep with the super compact smg theme.
For a back story, you could say it was an earlier attempt/prototype for a medic gun
[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HK_MP5"][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HK_MP5[/URL][/URL]
I know that some other people suggested this before me, kudos to them, but my idea differs somewhat... I hope. (for the field medic, also needing some gun-love)
-9mm handgun based damage, i guess, but a smaller(...right? i forgot how big the MP7M's mag is, but in real life it goes up to 40.) mag
-Weaker healing dart, being a prototype for the medic gun
-Heavier than the MP7M, at a reasonable weight so that you can't carry alot of other stuff without feeling slower

Uhm... There were others, i think, but i guess i forgot them. Anyways, what do you guys think? Personally, i thought all the ideas made sense to some degree with the exception of the AI AWM/AW50. I mean, there's not much of a reason to include it, i guess except to have a long range bullet based solution rather than the xbow.
 

Zeptorem

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I hate to backseat moderate, but jesus, this is getting ridiculous.

Use the damn search function. Please, for the love of god. EVERY one of these ideas have been suggested before in exactly the same way. This is even one of the more ill-conceived and unoriginal posts I've seen here, and that's going some...

Also, Not Another Teen Movie is from 2001. I don't know how young you are, but that's not an "old movie" by any metric. And lots of people saw it (despite it being terrible).
 

CandleJack

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Benelli M4 Super 90, also known as the M1014 to the american military (also in service with the united kingdom and austrailia)
[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benelli_M4"][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benelli_M4"][URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benelli_M4[/URL][/URL][/URL]
Ever wanted a shotgun that you didn't need to pump, but wasn't super expensive? Benelli M4! But why dun u jus put da AA12 on semi nube? Cuz it's liek, totally expensive.
-Damage similar to that of the AA12 or the regular shotgun
-smaller mag capacity than that of the AA12
-Faster rate of fire than the Pump Shotty
(I'm not quite sure if this has already been suggested, but I haven't come across it recently)

HK MP5A5, MP5k, if you want to keep with the super compact smg theme.
For a back story, you could say it was an earlier attempt/prototype for a medic gun
[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HK_MP5"][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HK_MP5"][URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HK_MP5[/URL][/URL][/URL]
I know that some other people suggested this before me, kudos to them, but my idea differs somewhat... I hope. (for the field medic, also needing some gun-love)
-9mm handgun based damage, i guess, but a smaller(...right? i forgot how big the MP7M's mag is, but in real life it goes up to 40.) mag
-Weaker healing dart, being a prototype for the medic gun
-Heavier than the MP7M, at a reasonable weight so that you can't carry alot of other stuff without feeling slower

Uhm... There were others, i think, but i guess i forgot them. Anyways, what do you guys think? Personally, i thought all the ideas made sense to some degree with the exception of the AI AWM/AW50. I mean, there's not much of a reason to include it, i guess except to have a long range bullet based solution rather than the xbow.

With the M4, i'm going say yes.

The MP7 has a standard 20 round mag, which is the one that is capable of fitting in the pistol grip. The 40 round mag is the one that sticks out of the pistol grip.
The MP5k would have either the 30-round MP5 mag, which, let's say, would give it a total of 45 rounds, or the MP5k 15 round mag. For a total of 30.
If you're going with the MP5k then the weight would be about equal to the MP7. At most 1 block over.
MP5A2 with fixed stock, now that's a different idea.
 
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Ubermn

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Jun 4, 2010
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I hate to backseat moderate, but jesus, this is getting ridiculous.

Use the damn search function. Please, for the love of god. EVERY one of these ideas have been suggested before in exactly the same way. This is even one of the more ill-conceived and unoriginal posts I've seen here, and that's going some...

Also, Not Another Teen Movie is from 2001. I don't know how young you are, but that's not an "old movie" by any metric. And lots of people saw it (despite it being terrible).

I've looked around, and no, there are a few of the weapons i haven't seen suggested, or elaborated upon. So far, all i've seen are things like "let's have an MG!" or something like that, some explain to deeper detail, but most i don't see do. Christ, sorry if the post isn't god damn perfect. All i really wanted to know if any of this sounded balanced or plausible.

Also, 2001? that's like, 9 years ago. Nobody i know has heard of it, and you don't see it anywhere. That kind of constitutes old and unheard of for me. The description is subjective.
 

ComradeHX

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Did you really think that AK and SCAR-H use the same cartridge?

Think again.

This game already has SCAR-H that has more damage than the AK, because the SCAR-H uses 7.62x51mm NATO rounds while AK uses 7.62x39mm (shortened Mosin Nagant round) rounds.

Also, .338 Lapua magunm > 7.62x51 mm ... making AWM do same damage as M14 makes no sense.


And all of that is without taking account of barrel length and how differently loaded(bullet mass and how much powder it has) each cartridge is.

As for the suggested weapons, M240 = really big and heavy... and having a push back is stupid (what did you think it is, a cannon?).

MP5 generally have 30rd magazines that empty too quickly, unless you want a drum mag...

Really, none of these suggested guns make sense in game
 
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Ubermn

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Jun 4, 2010
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Did you really think that AK and SCAR-H use the same cartridge?

Think again.

This game already has SCAR-H that has more damage than the AK, because the SCAR-H uses 7.62x51mm NATO rounds while AK uses 7.62x39mm (shortened Mosin Nagant round) rounds.

Also, .338 Lapua magunm > 7.62x51 mm ... making AWM do same damage as M14 makes no sense.


And all of that is without taking account of barrel length and how differently loaded(bullet mass and how much powder it has) each cartridge is.

As for the suggested weapons, M240 = really big and heavy... and having a push back is stupid (what did you think it is, a cannon?).

MP5 generally have 30rd magazines that empty too quickly, unless you want a drum mag...

Really, none of these suggested guns make sense in game

First of all, okay, i was wrong about the AK and the SCAR, however, the SCAR-H (Mk.17 as used in the game) can accept battlefield pickup AK mags. Secondly, fine, the AWM is chambered in .338 and .300, my mistake. In that case, I was probably referring to the AWP, which is chambered in 7.62 NATO, same round which the M14 uses, therefore, the AWP would make sense. As for the M240, i would assume it's heavy, yes. As for the push back, the hunting shotgun pushes you back too. The pushback was meant to balance it out, as you'd have to reposition yourself after prolonged firing. Finally, the thing about the MP5. It's automatic, like a large portion of the game's weapons. It doesnt take long to empty the SCAR's 20 (25 in game max) mag. Same goes for the MP7. I don't know why that's such a problem for you. Also, that whole thing about the bullet mass and barrel length. It's a game. Do you really think that that's taken into account? Really, that's just being a little nit picky.

Fine, some of these ideas aren't totally plausible. I may be off on some info. Some of these may have been suggested before me. What was i thinking?

I was thinking, maybe these ideas are hashed out slightly more than others. Maybe some of these ideas are somewhat original, in any sense of the word. Honest attempt at a suggestion thread, honest mistakes. Jeez.