New Specimen "Marhithera"

[nutterbutter]

Why change the story just to fit in one specimen? sounds like too much work to me. I don't think you should ever change an original story just to make something fit. Defeats the purpose of having a story.

I didn't realize the story was canon. Anyway, no one is talking about uprooting the entire KF universe. Maybe Dr. Zvletski worked for Whatshisname. Maybe Dr. Zvletski had a parallel project going as well. Or maybe we just kill off Dr. Zvletski altogether. Focusing on Dr. Zvletski making Marhithera seems like such a tiny nit to spend time on.

 

[YoYoBatty]

this is gonna be an advantage for nade spammers and any explosive projectile weapons lol

 

[CandleJack]

Correct me if i'm wrong, but wouldn't the electromagnet pole need to be insanely large and powerful to do what you say it does? In my knowledge a bullet traveling at 980m/s would have a relatively unaffected trajectory from a magnet such as this, however slower moving things such as melee weapons and maybe grenades would be affected more than bullets.

The repulsion field would maybe slow down the bullets, reducing damage slightly, but wouldn't truly do what you want it to do.

It seems you've inadvertantly created another specimen that Berserker is weak against; in my opinion

Yes, the electromagnet is insanely powerful.

The repulsion field would maybe slow down the bullets, reducing damage slightly, but wouldn't truly do what you want it to do.

Maybe, but I don't see how it would affect melee more than any other perk.

In my knowledge a bullet traveling at 980m/s would have a relatively unaffected trajectory from a magnet such as this, however slower moving things such as melee weapons and maybe grenades would be affected more than bullets.

Bullets aren't really magnetic, except for maybe the MP7's armour-piercing rounds, and all of the melee weapons are magnetic; so they're more affected than the bullets are.

I'm sorry, but my knowledge of logic says this wouldn't work, unless you elaborated to specifically target these loop-holes.

 

[Unit-05]

So you want to add a fleshpound, with a pole stuck on it, call it a 'Marhithera', Make it immune to headshots, and instead of bullet spam to kill it, you want explosive spam instead?

Why did you pick a name that sounds like a type of vodka mix?

 

[nutterbutter]

So you want to add a fleshpound, with a pole stuck on it, call it a 'Marhithera', Make it immune to headshots, and instead of bullet spam to kill it, you want explosive spam instead?

No

Why did you pick a name that sounds like a type of vodka mix?

Slight variation of Belarusian for 'Magnetic'

 

[EricFong]

Dr. Zvletski

Who is he?

 

[9_6]

Well, I could, but I don't want to spell out everything at the beginning. The first reason is I obviously haven't thought everything out. But that isn't a bad thing.

Well don't complain about people pointing the same out over and over/saying that this is a stupid/not well thought out idea then.
Keeping the stats vague because it's just a concept is one thing but intentionally keeping the concept vague is just not very productive.
A concept is all you have after all.

More people are always going to consider more possibilities than a single person. The second reason is that I want people to see it as raw as possible. One person thought it was melee-proof and another though it was melee-only. Personally, I thought it was melee-neutral.

I don't see this going anywhere.
If there's no foundation, we can't talk on equal terms.

 

[nutterbutter]

this is gonna be an advantage for nade spammers and any explosive projectile weapons lol

And it will be carrying those unexploded grenades towards the players as well. And in a crowd as well.

 

[nutterbutter]

Well don't complain about people pointing the same out over and over/saying that this is a stupid/not well thought out idea then.

Again, I don't complain about people saying any of my ideas are bad. Their opinions are just as valid as everyone else's.

Keeping the stats vague because it's just a concept is one thing but intentionally keeping the concept vague is just not very productive.
A concept is all you have after all.

There is a difference between 'vague' and 'not fully fleshed.' I'm not keeping anything purposefully vague. I thought it was quite clear I'm asking for input.

Of course Marhithera is nothing but a concept.

I don't see this going anywhere.
If there's no foundation, we can't talk on equal terms.

Of course this isn't going anywhere. Everything on this board, except actual mods, is purely academic. "Equal terms?" What are you talking about?

 

[9_6]

I'm not keeping anything purposefully vague.

Expand your first post then.
What I just pulled out of your mouth. Spell it out.

Funny, I could swear I've just seen you saying you don't want to do that.

"Equal terms?" What are you talking about?

Everyone has their own idea of how it'll work.
Can't talk about a plant if it's not even clear whether it's a tree, a bush or grass.
How can we talk about a specimen if it's not even clear if it's completely, partially or not really at all immune to bullets, how melee combat fares and what the motivation behind coming up with it was.

 

[Unit-05]

So you want to add a fleshpound, with a pole stuck on it, call it a 'Marhithera', Make it immune to headshots, and instead of bullet spam to kill it, you want explosive spam instead?

No

No? No as in I 'Just don't get it' or no as in, 'you are too insulted that I was blunt with your idea so you get obnoxious in an attempt to insult me.

I have quoted of what you said, in the same order of what my post summed your idea up in, and you say no? If I am wrong then explain why I am.

Marhithera is a Fleshpound wearing a battery backpack and a large pole that rises 2 feet above his head.

When he is dying, he can be spammed but someone can't stand there and simply spam headshots with the m14 or aa12. They have to pay attention when attacking him.

Sure, bullets are useless when Marhithera is enraged, but Marhithera is quite literally a grenade magnet when enraged. Add in the FP's weakness to grenades, and everyone can kill him. They just can't spam him to death when he is enraged.

 

[nutterbutter]

Expand your first post then.
What I just pulled out of your mouth. Spell it out.

Funny, I could swear I've just seen you saying you don't want to do that.

I will eventually, but I don't want to post specific tactics yet. Suggestions and additions for Marhithera, sure.

Everyone has their own idea of how it'll work.

That's what I'm hoping for.

Can't talk about a plant if it's not even clear whether it's a tree, a bush or grass.
How can we talk about a specimen if it's not even clear if it's completely, partially or not really at all immune to bullets, how melee combat fares and what the motivation behind coming up with it was.

How can we /not/ talk about it? There is nothing to discuss about if I say "Marhithera is this, this, and this. And only this."

No? No as in I 'Just don't get it' or no as in, 'you are too insulted that I was blunt with your idea so you get obnoxious in an attempt to insult me.

Christ, what is it with people always looking for a fight? I just said 'no' because Marhithera isn't the specimen you described.

Marhithera is only immune the head shots when he is enraged or close to death. Grenades are a perfect attack but only if Marhithera is some distance away. Say Marhithera is 10 feet away rushing. 4 people toss a couple grenades each and Marhithera runs right into the middle of them before the grenades explode. Once Marhithera gets below 20% health the grenades thrown at his head will bounce back. So will bullets. Then players have to start working the body.

 

[nutterbutter]

Bullets aren't really magnetic, except for maybe the MP7's armour-piercing rounds, and all of the melee weapons are magnetic; so they're more affected than the bullets are.

I'm sorry, but my knowledge of logic says this wouldn't work, unless you elaborated to specifically target these loop-holes.

Yeah, the physics aren't perfect, but hey, we're in a world where pipe bombs are the most stable thing in the game and nothing except for grenades can damage regenerating doors.

 

[theslingshot]

Don't like that... ZEDs are like minions, they're not brilliant, so they won't make some kind of electromagnet attached to a "pole?"...whtever.


next.

 

[nutterbutter]

Don't like that... ZEDs are like minions, they're not brilliant, so they won't make some kind of electromagnet attached to a "pole?"...whtever.


next.

You could say the same thing about the husk's fireballl weapon, FP's rotating forearms, or the scrake's chainsaw.

 

[theslingshot]

I could...

But I guess I won't...

 

[CandleJack]

Yeah, the physics aren't perfect, but hey, we're in a world where pipe bombs are the most stable thing in the game and nothing except for grenades can damage regenerating doors.

Touch

 

[FlakAttack]

Comments and suggestion?

Just one: stop posting.

This idea, like your others, is not even half complete. Despite this, you insist on not only posting it, but defending it, even though you have no idea what it is you are actually defending. You even go on to say that people's assumptions are wrong, and then when Unit-05 used your own quotes to prove that their assumptions were actually correct, you simply ignore the truth and indirectly accuse him of trolling.

Nutter, just let this idea die.

 

[Unit-05]

Christ, what is it with people always looking for a fight? I just said 'no' because Marhithera isn't the specimen you described.

I didn't describe anything, I just quoted what you said.

 

[nutterbutter]

Christ, what is it with people always looking for a fight? I just said 'no' because Marhithera isn't the specimen you described.

I didn't describe anything, I just quoted what you said.

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So you want to add a fleshpound, with a pole stuck on it, call it a 'Marhithera', Make it immune to headshots, and instead of bullet spam to kill it, you want explosive spam instead?