New Perk idea

[zfroggyman]

Lots of MMOs have summoners/shapeshifters/mindcontrollers where you summon AI, become the AI, or have the enemy AI become your ally (or even alot of zombie games where you get to play as the zombie--l4d,zombie panic, ect). Point is, if most people do not like playing as monsters or summoning them ect, then those classes would not have been coded into MMOs or alot of other games. I know for one that in l4d, most people like playing as the infected isntead of humans with weapons.

And regarding the gunslinger perk, its role is already taken my commandos and sharpshooters (taking out weak mobs or taking out powerful enemies). If the gunslinger is made so that you can fit either roles, then you are pretty much playing 1/2 commando and 1/2 sharpshooter so there really isn't any point. Seems fun because akimboing pistols is fun but the roles just overlap.

 

[timur]

Lots of MMOs have summoners/shapeshifters/mindcontrollers where you summon AI, become the AI, or have the enemy AI become your ally (or even alot of zombie games where you get to play as the zombie--l4d,zombie panic, ect). Point is, if most people do not like playing as monsters or summoning them ect, then those classes would not have been coded into MMOs or alot of other games. I know for one that in l4d, most people like playing as the infected isntead of humans with weapons.

And regarding the gunslinger perk, its role is already taken my commandos and sharpshooters (taking out weak mobs or taking out powerful enemies). If the gunslinger is made so that you can fit either roles, then you are pretty much playing 1/2 commando and 1/2 sharpshooter so there really isn't any point. Seems fun because akimboing pistols is fun but the roles just overlap.

Pheonix will get you..........I will make sure of it....

mwahahahaha

anyways, playing specimen in L4D would not be half as intrigiung if you were fighting other zombies. The main allure is that you face off against the players....just like the speciamentaion mod.

And, PS, I would argue for the gunslinger myself, but I think there is 50 pages of arguments a couple ideas down.

 

[zfroggyman]

I never even heard of or seen a specicimentaionsomething mod on any server (played regular team death match kf though). Or a even easier to implement idea, give medics that boomer puke from l4d2 and temporarily make lesser mobs turn on the enemies you hit with it.

 

[timur]

I never even heard of or seen a specicimentaionsomething mod on any server (played regular team death match kf though). Or a even easier to implement idea, give medics that boomer puke from l4d2 and temporarily make lesser mobs turn on the enemies you hit with it.

I like it, but the lack of originality might anger many fans....

or worse, Valve, for copyright infringment

And I think the problem with speciamentaionmod is that too few servers carry it for some reason.

 

[Deafmute]

ok dude, why be so hostile....it's not like we're trying to delete/edit an Amendment in the US constitution where you would need a "valid reason" this is a ****ing game :/ Not to mention there isn't a RULE that you need a valid reason to want a new perk in the first place. In addition, the stuff you guys are sarcastically talking about (dual wielding scars and tanks, ect) are completely OP or it can't even be implemented in the game. At least I took the time to make something that's realistically implementable into the game and wrote a huge wall to ensure balance and no grief. Oh, and this isn't a far fetched idea either, it's not psychic magical powers controlling its firing a projectile that receives your character's brain impulses as electro impulses into the zed (kinda like those mind controlled toys that are out on the market). Or instead of this it can be kind of like HaTeMe's idea where they just get turned onto ur side temporarily.

I'm not being hostile; I'm just trying to demonstrate how ridiculous you sound. For a polished, professional perk to be added into the game, yes, you do need a valid reason. Honestly not trying to be rude here, but do you have any idea how much work goes into game development? I've been involved in beta testing, and there is A LOT of work, play-testing, trial and error, and time that goes into it. I highly doubt Tripwire can afford, money or time-wise, to code and create a perk of this nature. It's just not a solid enough idea.

It is far-fetched because, as I said before, this does not fit into the realm of KF at all. The idea is that you're a riot squad dispatched to gun down waves of genetic freaks, not have crazy impossible abilities like mind control. Your comparison to L4D versus and MMOs doesn't really work, because well...KF isn't an MMO nor is it a competitive game.

 

[Zeron]

TWI is a small company that is too busy with RO:HOS at the moment. I think they'd want a valid reason to swap from that to making your silly mind-control perk that doesn't fit in with the game at all.

If you think i'm being harsh towards you individually, don't worry, i feel the same about this perk as gunslinger.

 

[zfroggyman]

I'm not being hostile; I'm just trying to demonstrate how ridiculous you sound. For a polished, professional perk to be added into the game, yes, you do need a valid reason. Honestly not trying to be rude here, but do you have any idea how much work goes into game development? I've been involved in beta testing, and there is A LOT of work, play-testing, trial and error, and time that goes into it. I highly doubt Tripwire can afford, money or time-wise, to code and create a perk of this nature. It's just not a solid enough idea.

It is far-fetched because, as I said before, this does not fit into the realm of KF at all. The idea is that you're a riot squad dispatched to gun down waves of genetic freaks, not have crazy impossible abilities like mind control. Your comparison to L4D versus and MMOs doesn't really work, because well...KF isn't an MMO nor is it a competitive game.

So what, I can't even post suggestions now? Based on what you're saying, I'm not even allowed to make ANY suggestions now? Just because I suggested something doesnt mean the KF team is automatically FORCED into developing everything in teh suggestion thread. Also, I don't believe i'm ridiculous at all. You think these human made biotic experimental soldiers have intellectual thought of their own? They were obviously made as controllable soldiers not random uncontrollable zombies for apocalpyse however due to circumstances they broke out of the lab. And you don't understand the point of my comparison, which was to show that this idea of a class isn't far fetched in any scenario and has been used before numerous times in numerous different games. You should also know that one of the characters is a 1/2 mutant, and many of the characters are NOT random riot police but just regular people trying to survive. If you don't like the idea just criticize it or just don't post, no need to bash the poster for making a suggestion that could cost the KF team milliions zzz


Oh, and I don't give a dam wether the KF team has time or money to make anything as this is a SUGGESTION. Just bring up an idea to be considered when they HAVE TIME AND MONEY to add new content or make a new kf game. From what you're saying, nobody should be allowed to make suggestions for new stuff once the game has been balanced and work well (demo perk isn't even needed in this game).

When it comes down to it, I don't NEED a valid reason to post any suggestion I want. This is for a game ffs no need for any srs bsns. You should see the retarded **** that goes on in congress regarding useless issues that if implemented would costs alot of tax money and manpower.

 

[Zeron]

So what, I can't even post suggestions now? Based on what you're saying, I'm not even allowed to make ANY suggestions now? Just because I suggested something doesnt mean the KF team is automatically FORCED into developing everything in teh suggestion thread. Also, I don't believe i'm ridiculous at all. You think these human made biotic experimental soldiers have intellectual thought of their own? They were obviously made as controllable soldiers not random uncontrollable zombies for apocalpyse however due to circumstances they broke out of the lab. And you don't understand the point of my comparison, which was to show that this idea of a class isn't far fetched in any scenario and has been used before numerous times in numerous different games. You should also know that one of the characters is a 1/2 mutant, and many of the characters are NOT random riot police but just regular people trying to survive. If you don't like the idea just criticize it or just don't post, no need to bash the poster for making a suggestion that could cost the KF team milliions zzz


Oh, and I don't give a dam wether the KF team has time or money to make anything as this is a SUGGESTION. Just bring up an idea to be considered when they HAVE TIME AND MONEY to add new content or make a new kf game. From what you're saying, nobody should be allowed to make suggestions for new stuff once the game has been balanced and work well (demo perk isn't even needed in this game).

When it comes down to it, I don't NEED a valid reason to post any suggestion I want. This is for a game ffs no need for any srs bsns. You should see the retarded **** that goes on in congress regarding useless issues that if implemented would costs alot of tax money and manpower.

This strawberry shortcake sure is good...wait...I think you could use some.

 

[zfroggyman]

This strawberry shortcake sure is good...wait...I think you could use some.

Acutally i Just had it at lunch at my dorm, first time eating it. Too much strawberry sauce though.

 

[Zeron]

Acutally i Just had it at lunch at my dorm, first time eating it. Too much strawberry sauce though.

You can never have enough strawberry sauce!

 

[Deafmute]

lots of words

Stop spouting logical fallacies, please. Of course you can post suggestions, and of course Tripwire isn't forced into implementing them. That doesn't mean you're not going to get criticism nor does it mean people will like your idea. Yes, one of the characters is half-mutant, but that is a paid DLC pack, not a perk that's inherently in game. By acknowledging that some of the characters are regular people you've emphasized my point that this mind-control perk would not fit into KF. I never once bashed you; I gave clear reasons for why I thought the perk won't work and you misinterpreted what I said as being hostile.

 

[timur]

You can never have enough strawberry sauce!

I don't know about that; I was never big on the strawberry sauce.

I am afraid I am a dedicated chocolate fan when it comes to cakes (however, I do think cookies&cream is delicious). Of course, it isn't healthy, but if your doing a dessert, might as well go all the way, right?

So, in my opinion, you can never have too little strawberry sauce.

However, on the subject, it may simply be that Ive only tried bad strawberry shotcake.

Its my duty to go and find out

 

[Deafmute]

Pie > cake

Forever.

 

[zfroggyman]

Pie > cake

Forever.

Cookies>cake>pie

 

[Deafmute]

Cookies>cake>pie

 

[comaryu]

Sounds fun mmm...meh not sure if i want it. Probably as a mutator, wouldn't mind it then.

But, even if ya say limited time, it just makes the higher level zeds easier.

I mean, even if its 5 secs to control an fp,
ya can hold it and make it easier for ya team to focus it,
even if ya say the zeds gets buffed or take lesser % of damage from ya teammates during the duration when they are in control, ya can use this 5 secs to make the fp go back in another area, help ya team prep by giving them 5 secs to reload or get in position before firing away when it comes back into the area.

Possible balance to this is probably have it raged as soon as the mind control duration is over, but this pretty much makes husks and scrakes even more useless.

Iuno, this isn't some mmorpg or strategy game like WoW, shaiya or dota. Mind control in a zombie oriented game doesn't sound right :s

 

[zfroggyman]

Sounds fun mmm...meh not sure if i want it. Probably as a mutator, wouldn't mind it then.

But, even if ya say limited time, it just makes the higher level zeds easier.

I mean, even if its 5 secs to control an fp,
ya can hold it and make it easier for ya team to focus it,
even if ya say the zeds gets buffed or take lesser % of damage from ya teammates during the duration when they are in control, ya can use this 5 secs to make the fp go back in another area, help ya team prep by giving them 5 secs to reload or get in position before firing away when it comes back into the area.

Possible balance to this is probably have it raged as soon as the mind control duration is over, but this pretty much makes husks and scrakes even more useless.

Iuno, this isn't some mmorpg or strategy game like WoW, shaiya or dota. Mind control in a zombie oriented game doesn't sound right :s

Ok like i said before, Mind control was a bad term, im not talking about psychic magical abiilities im talking about controlling lab made biotic zeds (wrote a whole paragraph explaining it). Assuming that the apocolypse didnt happen the zeds would obviously have been made as mutant soldiers to obey the commands of the creator but as they have 0 intelligence, a way has to have been made to control them. And regarding the running away, I talked about the wire projectile whihc has a limited length so you cant move a fp away (5 seconds of movement won't get you anywhere anyhow)

 

[timur]

Cookies>cake>pie

Seconded.

However, I must ask:

When baking cookies, is it better to have them be on the 'rare' side by having them be so mushy that they almost fall apart? Or is it better to have crunchier cookies? For the record, Im talking chocolate chip, because Im too bad a baker to make anything more advanced

 

[zfroggyman]

Seconded.

However, I must ask:

When baking cookies, is it better to have them be on the 'rare' side by having them be so mushy that they almost fall apart? Or is it better to have crunchier cookies? For the record, Im talking chocolate chip, because Im too bad a baker to make anything more advanced

I like "chewable" cookies if you konw what i mean. Not crunchy but not too mushy that it's hard to chew. Those are so delicious.

 

[C_Gibby]

I like "chewable" cookies if you konw what i mean. Not crunchy but not too mushy that it's hard to chew. Those are so delicious.

Yeah, the soft gooey kind. I hate putting pressure on my beautiful teeth for those brick-like cookies you can get.

Soft ones make me foodgasm.