New Char "Pat the Hairdresser"

[brphoenix]

You do realize that no one is forcing you to post in this thread. No one is requiring you to reply. You also realize that by posting in this thread you keep bumping it up to the top.

So a mod has better chances of seeing and locking it

 

[SMIFF]

You do realize that no one is forcing you to post in this thread. No one is requiring you to reply. You also realize that by posting in this thread you keep bumping it up to the top.

Yes.

 

[nutterbutter]

So a mod has better chances of seeing and locking it

I've seen you call others "troll" when there is a post you don't like. You do realize that it is you, and others, that are engaging in trollish behavior. You and others are specifically trying to start arguments. I've already stated that I don't want arguments.

So your objective is to specifically cause enough trouble and discontent to pick a fight to try and get a thread locked that has absolutely nothing to do with you?

 

[Zeron]

If Pat gets Character specific things i want to see Gary Glover as Condom man! Wrapping specimens in his behemoth latex bags and storing them for later use, or just putting on on a fleshpound's head and watch as it flails in suffocation.

 

[imonoz]

This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read.

Now THAT's the most ridiculous thing I've ever read, lol.

 

[C_Gibby]

You do realize that no one is forcing you to post in this thread. No one is requiring you to reply. You also realize that by posting in this thread you keep bumping it up to the top.

If you look back, you'll see that you're the one who said to me that you wouldn't reply because you were "done with it."

 

[BenioX]

Comments?

I've already stated that I don't want arguments.

If you ask people for ctiticism, and then you can't take the criticism of people who dislike your ideas (are there any who actually liked your ideas though?) then there must be obviously something wrong with you.

 

[C_Gibby]

If you ask people for ctiticism, and then you can't take the criticism of people who dislike your ideas (are there any who actually liked your ideas though?) then there must be obviously something wrong with you.

Why on earth did you necro this godawful 2-year-old thread?

 

[nutterbutter]

If you ask people for ctiticism, and then you can't take the criticism of people who dislike your ideas (are there any who actually liked your ideas though?) then there must be obviously something wrong with you.

Did you actually read the posts?

 

[BenioX]

Did you actually read the posts?

Yes I did, and no I did not necro it, it was on top (how else I'd see it!?)

 

[C_Gibby]

it was on top (how else I'd see it!?)

The last post before yours was mine, and it was two years ago. Come on, don't lie.

 

[BenioX]

The last post before yours was mine, and it was two years ago. Come on, don't lie.

If it was two years ago, then how the heck was it on top!? If it was 2 years ago, why wasn't it like maaany pages away!? I am certain it was on top, as I never check pages 2+, only first page. It was right above the topics about new characters ideas...

EDIT: Okay found fault which even made me go there...

Best female suggestion? Pat the Hairdresser http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=44059

from:
http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=78019&page=3

 

[nutterbutter]

Yes I did, and no I did not necro it, it was on top (how else I'd see it!?)

If you read the posts, which I don't believe you did, then you would see the obvious difference between people criticizing Pat (which I want to hear) and people starting arguments for the express purpose of having nastiness in a thread so a mod will lock the thread.

 

[BenioX]

If you read the posts, which I don't believe you did, then you would see the obvious difference between people criticizing Pat (which I want to hear) and people starting arguments for the express purpose of having nastiness in a thread so a mod will lock the thread.

I did read and yes, I saw that. As I said, I didn't see any single person who liked your idea. I don't see what is your point here. People did criticize Pat - they said they don't like it, that the weapons don't really make sense (1st page mostly was like that), from 2nd page people started saying they want this thread locked, and now 3rd page seems to be totally off-topic going.

 

[nutterbutter]

I did read and yes, I saw that. As I said, I didn't see any single person who liked your idea. I don't see what is your point here.

My point is that there is a difference between criticism and starting arguments. http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showpost.php?p=1061735&postcount=47

 

[BenioX]

My point is that there is a difference between criticism and starting arguments. [url]http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showpost.php?p=1061735&postcount=47[/URL]

so, you say this isn't criticism?

Spoiler!

Characters have no specific bonuses nor exclusive perks.

And I personally have a hard time thinking a hairdresser can survive a zombie (even though it's not quite zombies you fight) apocalypse.

So, even though you post it like it were a serious suggestion, it is just too ridiculous to be anything more than a "mild joke" idea.

But that's my opinion.

As for the specifics:

Stopping siren from screaming:
Too powerful. The siren is one of the deadliest zeds there (more than a bloat) unless you take care of it fast. She deals a LOT of damage, nulifies nades, and blurs you vision, all the while creating a "visual shield" - those waves she send make it hard to properly aim at her. Stopping her from screaming is turning her into cannon fodder. More than clots.

Being able to see stalkers 100% of the time:
The ability to see stalkers is one of the two commando's niche, the other being seeing zed's health bars. And they can't even see them if they're too far. Your perk would simply outshine them on that aspect, removing one of the "usefulnesses" of that perk.

Weapons:

Shears:
Nothing but a reskinned knife.

Perm solution nades:
Makes no sense to be able to do what they do. A specimen has no problem standing next to corpses (even eating them, who knows), so why wouldn't them be able to handle that? And, by your logic, players would also be unable to get through the "wet" zone.

Curling Iron:
So it replaces a ranged weapon with a melee one, which deals more damage than a Katana (both on single hit and dps)? A little overpowered. And alt-fire increases the damage? Now it's overpowered.

Blow dryer:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but in order to push a specimen 6 feet away (that's about 1 meter, right?) you'd need an epic blow dryer.

Mousse spray:
Freezing specimens (which could also mean they're stunned, but without the stun animation) means anyone else has the time to line up that perfect shot. No other perk can do that. And for a good reason. Freezing specimens means you stop them from doing anything, and leave them as vulnerable as a lvl1 firebug who emptied a canister on his feet. Not to mention that it makes no sense at all.

Hair spray + lighter:
Because it's stronger than a military grade, napalm-fueled flamethrowed.

Overall, too powerful. Nonsensic weaponry.

AFAIK, TWI likes to keep their weapons realistic (though leaving room for balance). None of those weapons are balanced, nor realistic.

Or this?

Spoiler!

But a character doesn't = perk >_> therefore she shouldn't be a magical pony.

The specimens eat your dead body which contain acids and what not... But they should be scared of chemicals only used in the vials?

Seeing stalkers render Commandos useless as mentioned above

Hairspray + lighter = firebug worthy

If it's hooked up to a battery, I'm pretty sure it'd die... unless it was a pistol.. with it being solarpowered or those >_> shakey things

And if anything... A perk making your character completely deaf would probably be the only thing to protect yourself against the siren but then again... something with that high of a dB would probably murder your inner organs.. since it does the same to your ears :s

Noone even started argument (unless you count in yourself). I can't see a single sentence from anyone who started argument, it's just that you can't take criticism and answer every negative coment with your "but I still think my idea is great" attitude. People don't like the idea and therefore they want this to be locked as noone likes it, and noone asks you to respond to them and argue about it.

Now, before you start saying now I argue too, I am going off. This thread is a joke which isn't funny and I'd rather forget.

 

[nutterbutter]

Noone even started argument (unless you count in yourself).

So you quoted me saying that I didn't want arguments but completely missed the entire post where I typed that? http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showpost.php?p=613886&postcount=43 specifically replying to the post "So a mod has better chances of seeing and locking it" You really missed that?

As for your examples, let's see my replies to those posts.

My reply to your first example http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showpost.php?p=593909&postcount=4 ended with "Let me alter Pat a bit and get your feedback."

My reply to your second example was detailed reply as well http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showpost.php?p=612899&postcount=14

 

[Soldier of Failure]

How about, instead of forcing this unto players, some epic modder out there make a mutator for this? It would be quite fun to play on a modded sever with 5 other hairdressers, kicking zed ***

 

[Dwood]

My idea on thi new character

My idea on thi new character

Okay so this is actually pretty funny sounding but wouldn't fit into the normal Killing Floor play style. BUT what if for say killing floor 2 they made a separate game-mode that featured a bunch of different "joke like" characters like "Pat the Hairdresser". So it would be a completely separate 'game-mode'. maybe other characters like 'bob the mechanic' or 'redneck rick' (This is the crap i come up with when I don't sleep)...but The whole Idea is interesting and not completely a stupid idea. But if used in a separate game-mode, I think it would be pretty funny/fun and would be something new in the zombie game world.