Muzzle flashes: realistic or not?.

[Arto1990]

Now i am not a gun pro (no firearm allowance in England) but from watching firearm videos on you tube and the like you never see big muzzle flashes like in ro ostfront or other games.

Here is a couple of good examples.

PPSH

YouTube - ppsh41

MP-40

YouTube - mp40

Do you think it would be a good idea if muzzle flashes were more like puffs of smoke then massive flashes in the full realism mode?.:IS2:

 

[LemoN]

+1

Under normal light conditions you wouldn't be able to spot muzzle flashes for anything other than carbines like the M44.

Low light conditions are a different thing though.

 

[Arto1990]

Yeah i think that would be good, night maps+ low light more visible muzzle flashes, normal light just normal smoke puff.

 

[SiC-Disaster]

A +1, and ofcourse as has been said, muzzle flashes should be more visible at night, and less visible in daytime.

 

[Mormegil]

Also, don't trust video to spot muzzle flashes. They often fall between exposures, when the electronic shutter is closed, so they're under represented in film and video.

 

[Arto1990]

So a muzzle flash plus smoke affect would be better? it was kinda like that in arma 1 and 2.

 

[Sodemo]

I've often thought this.

The movie-style fireball at the end of the barrel is not really realistic at all.

Maybe on a minigun or something mounted on a black hawk, but not a regular rifle or handgun.

 

[Nezzer]

Too much muzzleflash I say:

 

[Nimsky]

Yeah, definitely too much.

 

[Grobut]

Make the Alpha channel darker and set the texture material as "unlit", and hey presto, barely visable flames in daylight, but easilly visable in the dark.

 

[LemoN]

With most weapons (and ammo) you'll only see a small reddish glow and a few sparks in complete darkness. Only weapons that have a relatively low ammo-size to barrel length ratio will have a "real" muzzle-flash.

 

[ivan987]

Well well well... Where else did I saw this... Maybe my thread?

 

[LemoN]

Well well well... Where else did I saw this... Maybe my thread?

That's why I agreed with you.

Anyway, this topic has been discussed at last a dozen times, tripwire probably isn't going to change it.
http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=41224
http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=45365
http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=39343

Just a quick search, there probably are a few more threads.

 

[Zetsumei]

Also, don't trust video to spot muzzle flashes. They often fall between exposures, when the electronic shutter is closed, so they're under represented in film and video.

Yet you are limited to 60 fps often in video games. Aka the shortest a flash could be made in case of someone that can actually run at 60 fps is 1/60th of a second while it might be over much quicker normally.

I think that actually representations on video (especially when filmed with say 60fps) would probably give the closest representation of how it should be in game. As you essentially have a something similar to a shutter speed.

Sure there is a muzzle flash and if you record with a super speed camera you can see it even in day light. But the actual flash would be over much quicker than in the game.

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I hope that in day light conditions the flashes will be hard to notice while in night time situations the illumination created by the flashes make it a tad easier to spot someone.

 

[Bobdog]

Like LemoN said, use search before posting a new thread please. This has been discussed multiple times already.