The MP40/II was heavy and unbalanced during initial field testings, and thus inaccurate at range. Could this be reflected in-game?
Mp40/ii
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Its non-existance should be reflected in-game by removing it completely from RO II (along with the MkB 42, AVT 40, and revolver Silencer).
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all agreed exept for the Nagant bramint silincer, It WAS issued and in rather decent quantities..
even a mosin nagant suppressor for snipers and recon units was issued, and in proper quantities
No, silencers were never issued to any kind of regular infantry, which is what RO depicts.
They where issued to commandos, advanced scouts, partizans, NKVD specialists, that sort of thing, but they were never frontline issue, ever, and thus has no place in a game that revolves around frontline infantry.
Hell the M1895 itself is a bit dubious for this game, let alone the silencer, the only reason it was still in service was because there wasen't enough TT-33's to go around, but the people on the frontlines were favoured when handing out the TT-33's, and it was the reserves who were likely to end up with the Nagant.
It's not out of the question for the gun itself to have been there, and the fact that's it's nowhere near as good as the TT-33 will automatically ensure that most people would choose the Tokarev, so i'm ok with the M1895 beeing in the game, but the friggen silencer? Issued to frontile infantry? No friggen way!
The day we have maps revolving around Partizans and special NKVD missions, then we could talk about the silencer, then it might belong, but not for enlisted men in Stalingrad, that is nothing short of fantasy and makebelive.
Let's add the M712 schnellfeuer, Bayonets for snipers, and 6x scopes for the selfloading rifles to the list whilst we're at it.
Ohh and the post-war winter trigger-guard for the Kar, post war refurb plum bolts for SVT-40's, and various post Stalingrad weapon markings on several of the guns, not to mention late 1944 model PPSh-41's without the mode selector, all of that needs a tuneup.
Personally I'd like to see it on a per map basis. While the silencer makes little sense in all the maps we have now, I'm sure we'll get some covert/scout type scenario custom maps in the future that it would be suitable for.
But then I think all the weapons should be on a per map basis... and not linked to unlocks....
Weren't "silencers" designed to have you be able to fire weapons without ear protection (did they even use ear protection at the time?) and not to be a stealth-ninja?
They shouldnt remove the Mkb42, because i have seen a few documentaries where a few soldiers of the wehrmacht used the mkb42 in stalingrad, i have also a book where a soldiers has one!!!!
I think it's quite clear that TW failed to attract casual players with these prototype weapons and they should at least be removed from realism mode. Then we can at least play the game that was advertised those months we were strung along.
I am not saying it should be added for Regular infantry. For a marksman sure, but thats it
Please keep discussion on-topic. Let's try to focus a bit more on the OP, okay? This isn't a thread about silencers.
Back to topic: I don't think tripwire is going to remove it from the game, but i think greatly reduced accuracy would be a good balance compromise.
Back to topic: I don't think tripwire is going to remove it from the game, but i think greatly reduced accuracy would be a good balance compromise.
Depends on how badly the accuracy is reduced... if gets nerfed too hard there wouldn't be a point in getting the damn thing as an extra magazine isnt really worth ****ty accuracy. And since you can't remove attactchments after you unlock them, it might get troublesome for any one that plays German assault (that doesn't whore the MKB).
Must admint, if there is to be a 'Realism' mode then the gear availablility should at least take a respectful nod toward what was actually present at the time.
[Scotty]"No bloody MKb, AVT, MP40/II or saddle drum."[/Scotty]