more sub machine guns for medic
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Not sure if TEC-9's are very common in the UK but they used to be extremely common in the US a few years ago.
They where also very, very easily converted into full automatic firing mode, reason why they got banned from the whole nation (as of last time I checked).
They where also very, very easily converted into full automatic firing mode, reason why they got banned from the whole nation (as of last time I checked).
why? it's not like these are gonna be whitelisted, and you dont have to play on the customized servers that run such things anyways. so stop worrying about it.
The TDI Vector is indeed a good SMG, 13/33 rounds of 11.43x23mm (same calibre as M1911) with hardly any recoil. You'd get more recoil from the L22 in KF.
The P90 was designed as a PDW, or personal defence weapon, so it fits that it would be with Medic. How they got them is a different matter, but they're not so overpowered that they make Sharpie look weak. 5.7x28mm compared to Sharpie's/Commando's 7.62x51mm, it's not very powerful. Plentiful, yes, but lacking in stopping power.
An MP5 would be the ideal choice for Medic, since you can get the MP5A3 and replace the torch in the grip with a healing dart gun. The 9x19mm round is not very powerful, it'd be like a faster firing Dualies with sights that you can use.
Though on second thought the 9x18 Makarov round is even less powerful... (Vote 1 for Bizon)
The P90 was designed as a PDW, or personal defence weapon, so it fits that it would be with Medic. How they got them is a different matter, but they're not so overpowered that they make Sharpie look weak. 5.7x28mm compared to Sharpie's/Commando's 7.62x51mm, it's not very powerful. Plentiful, yes, but lacking in stopping power.
An MP5 would be the ideal choice for Medic, since you can get the MP5A3 and replace the torch in the grip with a healing dart gun. The 9x19mm round is not very powerful, it'd be like a faster firing Dualies with sights that you can use.
Though on second thought the 9x18 Makarov round is even less powerful... (Vote 1 for Bizon)
The Medic is focused on healing. Giving him any powerful weapons is stupid. However, we can give him something that doesn't deal much damage, but helps him survive.
For example, a double barrel over and under sawed off shotgun that shoots salt. Pushes ZEDs away a nice distance, and/or makes them stumble as well (As if you hit them with a melee) Does very little damage though.
A can of Pepper Spray taped to some plastic explosives. Grenade. When it goes off it stuns all of the ZEDs inside of the radius. Kind of expensive (maybe 300 pounds for 3?).
A shotgun that fires rubber pellets. Little damage, no knockback, slight stunning (variant on the salt shotgun)
Weapons that help the medic escape from harm rather than deal damage are the key to improving him.
For example, a double barrel over and under sawed off shotgun that shoots salt. Pushes ZEDs away a nice distance, and/or makes them stumble as well (As if you hit them with a melee) Does very little damage though.
A can of Pepper Spray taped to some plastic explosives. Grenade. When it goes off it stuns all of the ZEDs inside of the radius. Kind of expensive (maybe 300 pounds for 3?).
A shotgun that fires rubber pellets. Little damage, no knockback, slight stunning (variant on the salt shotgun)
Weapons that help the medic escape from harm rather than deal damage are the key to improving him.
From the silhouette preview image, (see steam community KF group page) it looks like this might be exactly what we're about to get for a new medic gun.
And I know you feel the need, the need for metric, but when it's a matter of recognizable cartridge names I think it's rather silly to use metric and then have to explain what you're talking about.
Those also come in .40 S&W, too.
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From the silhouette preview image, (see steam community KF group page) it looks like this might be exactly what we're about to get for a new medic gun.
And I know you feel the need, the need for metric, but when it's a matter of recognizable cartridge names I think it's rather silly to use metric and then have to explain what you're talking about.
How did they know what i wanted!
Metric is better than imperial in every way, people just need to get used to it
.40Short&Wimpy?
Then send a message: Vote the banning bastards out!
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The .40 S&W is what the 9mm Luger wants to be when it grows up. Adding something in that flavor would be nice, and flexible in terms of scaling. And, not a round seen much, if at all, in other games.
.40s&w and .357sig (9mm + 40s&w case) are quite different from 9mm/.45acp, because of the powder they use.
the feel of 9mm and 45acp is like "slow push" when fired, versus 357sig and 40sw are "snappy" because of the faster propellant used in those rounds.
wow i didnt know australia was so stringent... were there a lot of killings or crazy ppl with guns running around?
in the state i live in, it's perfectly legal to walk around with an ak47 (no mag), or to wear a pistol visibly on your hip. Just don't expect starbucks to let you in, plus people will give you funny looks and probably call the police, who will then just ask you to take your gun home.
it's called "open carry", and you don't need a permit, or have your weapons registered (it's voluntary)
but if you carry a pistol under your coat, or it's slightly concealed (i think it can't be less than 70% visible), you need a "concealed weapons permit" or you'll be in big trouble.
you should come visit and shoot guns, i got plenty!
the feel of 9mm and 45acp is like "slow push" when fired, versus 357sig and 40sw are "snappy" because of the faster propellant used in those rounds.
wow i didnt know australia was so stringent... were there a lot of killings or crazy ppl with guns running around?
in the state i live in, it's perfectly legal to walk around with an ak47 (no mag), or to wear a pistol visibly on your hip. Just don't expect starbucks to let you in, plus people will give you funny looks and probably call the police, who will then just ask you to take your gun home.
it's called "open carry", and you don't need a permit, or have your weapons registered (it's voluntary)
but if you carry a pistol under your coat, or it's slightly concealed (i think it can't be less than 70% visible), you need a "concealed weapons permit" or you'll be in big trouble.
you should come visit and shoot guns, i got plenty!
There was only a handful of shootings, but they were blown out of proportion and used as examples to take away our freedom.
You know how us Aussies are an easy-going lot? Yeah, no one really cared when they took away our rights.
So your state has open carry? Nice, i've been hearing the dumbsh!ts in office over there are banning it because of the Brady bunch. (Brady campaign for fear and misinformation)
I've heard all about the OC and CC over there, since the main source of my info is United Statesian in origin. It's a topic they talk about, and i listen; and listen well.
The entirety of Ausland is worse than the Communist Republic of California in regards to guns.
yeah s281 is in california and he has a hard time because of all the restrictions on guns.
well, i mean his choices are severely limited, but we still have a good time chatting about them, and i'm able to steer him away from the stupid design guns to good ones (for when he wishes to purchase) that are available to him besides the laws.
yeah the brady bill law ended ummmm 2006 i think, the one banning hi-capacity mags.
weird thing was that i never knew about the hi-cap/assault rifle ban until it was over, because i never had any trouble buying hi-capacity mags (bought a few 18rnd mags for my cz75, a 40rnd mag/75rnd drum for my rpk, plus was able to buy muzzlebreaks/flash hiders/ accessories) so when i heard about the ban ending, it seemed to me like it was never really there.
i think the closest thing that they have done towards banning guns in my state was that the city of seattle banned guns in city parks, which was then overturned because cities can't make laws that supercede state law concerning guns.
but even then the police wouldnt be authorized to arrest someone with a gun in a park, they could only ask that person to leave.
but given the way that police are handling things nowadays, they would probably shoot first and get off scott-free later, so it's not worth it to exercise your rights here (you can't even videotape police actions due to some new laws passed in other states)
well, i mean his choices are severely limited, but we still have a good time chatting about them, and i'm able to steer him away from the stupid design guns to good ones (for when he wishes to purchase) that are available to him besides the laws.
yeah the brady bill law ended ummmm 2006 i think, the one banning hi-capacity mags.
weird thing was that i never knew about the hi-cap/assault rifle ban until it was over, because i never had any trouble buying hi-capacity mags (bought a few 18rnd mags for my cz75, a 40rnd mag/75rnd drum for my rpk, plus was able to buy muzzlebreaks/flash hiders/ accessories) so when i heard about the ban ending, it seemed to me like it was never really there.
i think the closest thing that they have done towards banning guns in my state was that the city of seattle banned guns in city parks, which was then overturned because cities can't make laws that supercede state law concerning guns.
but even then the police wouldnt be authorized to arrest someone with a gun in a park, they could only ask that person to leave.
but given the way that police are handling things nowadays, they would probably shoot first and get off scott-free later, so it's not worth it to exercise your rights here (you can't even videotape police actions due to some new laws passed in other states)
I live in norway. and in norway you need a 5hours course to use one of these leagaly.
There are some really dumb/evil people in the world.
Said people like to disarm the populace so that there's less resistance.
The best course of action is to arm all Medics with submachine guns.
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This discussion has made me want to go and buy a nice shotgun (one of the semiauto Mossbergs that a lot of reviewers seem to love).
But then I realize I live in California, with all the hoops I'd have to jump through.
And then the feeling goes away.
But then I realize I live in California, with all the hoops I'd have to jump through.
And then the feeling goes away.
I still think that the goal in this area shouldn't be power but flexibility; in any case, another SMG seems a mundane and doesn't add all that much. The shotgun, rifle, ect., all have their advantages and I would support them, but my biggest hope still lies in a more passive weapon that relies on teamwork, making communication and cooperation more emphasized while adding to the medic's role and preventing the reawakening of the medi-tank of old.
hmmm, howabout a smg that instead of heals, would help someone that is in a bind get out?
a secondary fire that can be used once a wave, let's say a commando got surrounded and is about to die, so maybe you can hit him with an adrenaline dart, which temporarily gives 50hp and 25% speed boost, just long enough for him to get away (maybe 10 seconds?)
it wouldnt be hard to code at all, i already have a variant of it on my server, i'm just wondering if i should export this weapon as a singular mut for other's to add to their own custom servers.
a secondary fire that can be used once a wave, let's say a commando got surrounded and is about to die, so maybe you can hit him with an adrenaline dart, which temporarily gives 50hp and 25% speed boost, just long enough for him to get away (maybe 10 seconds?)
it wouldnt be hard to code at all, i already have a variant of it on my server, i'm just wondering if i should export this weapon as a singular mut for other's to add to their own custom servers.
Camera & recording laws are even more dangerous to freedom than gun control imo. The people can always find weapons if need be, but you still need that spark to get them to rise up against corruption in the first place. If people don't know their being tyrannized, then all the guns in the world won't help them. But I digress...
I agree, instead of making a bunch of SMG's they should give Medic a version of each perks weapons (barring maybe Zerker & Firebug) that also functions as a healing/support device.