More level 6's playing on Hard

[jorgamun]

First thing, there is a huge difficulty gap between hard and suicidal, bigger than between any two other consequent modes. Second thing, someone who played this game only casually, but for a long time, can have his perks at level6 and still be not skilled enough to play on suicidal. Thirdly, on suicidal and HoE tactics and knowledge about game mechanics are essential to survive, and not every player is dedicated enough to take time and actually learn them. And lastly, some people play KF just to chill out after stressful day at work and are there just to shoot things, not to fight for their life.

That doesn't negate the frustration of the players who want to play on Hard and contribute. We're not really talking about unskilled level 6's in Hard (at least I'm not), the idea was that it reduces the amount of contribution a player can give when he's outclassed by levels designed for higher difficulties.

Ultimately, it's the server owners' prerogatives.

 

[Rattler]

I play only Sui and HoE and everything I see is lvl 0 and 1 noobs trying to be some sort of elitists playing those diffs and you tell me that the lvl 6 players went back to Hard? What the hell happened? :\

 

[vealck]

That doesn't negate the frustration of the players who want to play on Hard and contribute. We're not really talking about unskilled level 6's in Hard (at least I'm not), the idea was that it reduces the amount of contribution a player can give when he's outclassed by levels designed for higher difficulties.

Yeah, I'm just explaining why there's a lot of people with lvl6 playing on hard. I'd say, if you're a dedicated KF player and you like the challenge... you can move to suicidal as soon as you're lvl4, if you know the game mechanics well by then.

I play only Sui and HoE and everything I see is lvl 0 and 1 noobs trying to be some sort of elitists playing those diffs and you tell me that the lvl 6 players went back to Hard? What the hell happened? :\

I blame default server browser setting, 'any difficulty'. But there are also people who actually know how to play, just had reset their perks.

 

[Left 4 Dinner]

I don't have an issue with payers who are level 6 and unskilled, because its very clear after a few waves, if they are good or not. Also, I understand that Hard is the best place to be casual and play, because its not to hard, but not too easy,especially if you have your perks up high. I'm just annoyed when its high level players who play on it and and are pretty skillful with their perk. Heck, during that match, I had only about 200ish kills, and the only person below me, was the demolition guy.

As for the thing with level 0/1/2 on HoE, Ive got to admit that i see that a lot, and I always assume that they are just lost, because some times they survive the first few eaves, but once the less common zeds start spawning, they die very fast. And the they leave shortly after.

Another thing that burns my buns, is when its the final wave and either half the team (3 people) go lvl 6 sharpy and get the M99 (way too OP) and gang bang the poor patty, or when the whole team goes support/demo and just spam the hell out of the grenades, pipe bombs and AA 12's. I mean, I'm sure that nearly all of the guys at this point, have the achievements, so why not try different tactics, besides the same old same old? Thats why I love tight maps like biotics lab, because I always go medic Xbow just in case things take a turn for the worse. Mainly, because I can easily outrun things, have good armor defense, can heal others from afar, and I can snipe patty if I'm the last person left.


Anyhow, what I'm trying to say is that I don't mind level 6 players playing on hard (anything below, is just noobish, and I do remember playing as a level 2 on normal and seeing level 6 pubstars playing with me, hogging all the kills and all the dosh), but when their the skillful type, and they have the mindset of "must get most kills, must be top of team", then it makes playing your own perk, pretty useless and difficult to learn from. And no, I don't have issues with casual players, just the ones who think that are really good and just refuse to move up a difficulty for a more fitting challenge


And on a side note, I was able to get to level 4 as support in the most glorious way possible. WestLondon, Hard, wave 8, as an enraged FP was approaching me, I unloaded my AA 12 onto him, while he smacks me once. At this time, I lost all my armor, and I was sitting at about 60ish health. Well, I reload, and he rages again. After two shots, i get the notification saying that I increased to level 4 for support specialist. So, my next 4 or 5 shots, were enough to kill the FP just as he was about to smack me again.

 

[Cmdr-A]

Honestly, I don't see the problem since I've not seen That many level sixs on hard difficulty and I frequent hard when I'm playing for actually playing for a good time. You obviously met a small minority of people that are like that because most of the time, I never experience this and see people of much lower levels on hard, ranging from two to five. I barely see many people with gold these days.

First thing, there is a huge difficulty gap between hard and suicidal, bigger than between any two other consequent modes. Second thing, someone who played this game only casually, but for a long time, can have his perks at level6 and still be not skilled enough to play on suicidal. Thirdly, on suicidal and HoE tactics and knowledge about game mechanics are essential to survive, and not every player is dedicated enough to take time and actually learn them. And lastly, some people play KF just to chill out after stressful day at work and are there just to shoot things, not to fight for their life.

I pretty much agree here. I'm not that great of a player to be able to play on anything higher than hard myself either. I find the game also gets a fair bit too laggy too since everything is moving at a much faster rate and seems to spawn faster which causes my PC some problems in solo or on a server. Yes I run on a "toaster" as some people put it in a derogatory term, but I still play as hard as I can to do my best on whatever difficulty I may try and do a damn better job than some people can do with their fancy current tech comps can. But due to computer limitations I'll stick to where my physical limitations are, which is handling hard well enough on my own.

I've given Suicidal / Hell on Earth a few tries and Its just not really for me. I'll stick to hard where I have a bit of a challenge but still can have fun in the long run. I'm full level six in everything and I really don't think the level should really dictate what difficulty you should be playing on. People can play where they want to and how they want to regardless of being a level six. I co admin a normal server because the consensus of the community members was to make one on normal where'd it get most traffic. On the oft hand, I frequent there more to play with the rest of everyone else because you usually meet some people you may not have ever met on harder difficulties.

 

[nutterbutter]

For the same reason people play zerker and they barricade themselves; they want the achievement, the glory of being the last player who always saves the team, or they want to get through the map with no real chance of dying.

The common thread? No risk.

 

[Islidox]

When I play on Hard, it's because I don't want to stress my myself by bringing all my concentration to the forefront like I do with Suicidal/HoE. Often times, when I don't have my pro friends on, I don't play HoE at all as it can get really frustrating playing with randoms.

And when I play on Hard, I employ tactics I would normally use in Suicidal/HoE anyways as another chance to practice while helping the randoms who I've joined up with. And on Hard mode, it's way easier to forgive mistakes on my or their part than it is on higher difficulties. More often than not, I choose the perk that I think will benefit the team the most, and that usually ends up being the support or sharp, my most common played perks besides the zerk. On occasion I have a vindictive streak and try to kill as much as possible, but that doesn't really happen a lot.

 

[CandleJack]

It might be just me but Hard servers are more populated than Sui/HoE servers, which have 0/6 or 6/6 and thus i can't play on those diffs.

Hard servers are more numerous and with more varied populations.

 

[Left 4 Dinner]

It might be just me but Hard servers are more populated than Sui/HoE servers, which have 0/6 or 6/6 and thus i can't play on those diffs.

Hard servers are more numerous and with more varied populations.

This is very true, but I think its because a lot of the servers that run HoE and Suicidal, are all password protected and stuff, so that way, PUBstars don't randomly join in a match, and mess things up. And even when a server tha tis running HoE has only 2 or 3 people, they usualy auto kick anyone who joins after the first wave.

 

[Freshmeat]

I have played 584 hours, moved to hard after about 50 and just about stayed there. For me, Killing Floor is about chilling with friends and see heads go pop. I need to concentrate far to much on suicidal, and that is not what I want from the game. From the day I played first time it was about fun. The corny jokes, the over-the-top gore, the sheer size of the waves. Reminds me of DooM a lot, and I play it like that. You might want to feel you are on your toes, but I want a game where I can have a beer without worrying that I am about to turn it over.

I play with friends, and at least 400 of above hours on one of three servers I paid for. I would very much like you not to tell me how to view the game.

 

[Amber Glass]

I have played 584 hours, moved to hard after about 50 and just about stayed there. For me, Killing Floor is about chilling with friends and see heads go pop. I need to concentrate far to much on suicidal, and that is not what I want from the game. From the day I played first time it was about fun. The corny jokes, the over-the-top gore, the sheer size of the waves. Reminds me of DooM a lot, and I play it like that. You might want to feel you are on your toes, but I want a game where I can have a beer without worrying that I am about to turn it over.

I play with friends, and at least 400 of above hours on one of three servers I paid for. I would very much like you not to tell me how to view the game.

lmao way to get self righteous, the OP has a perfectly viable point, a team stacked with level 6s playing on hard makes the game boring for the rest of the players who are trying to level their perks. while no, there isn't anything wrong with it persay if you'd rather play casually and not for a challenge, and if you are playing on your own server with your buddies more power to you, but dont get your panties in a bunch because the OP has a logical argument and you were offended because you still play on hard as a level 6.

 

[dogbadger]

i found playing on hard would seriously screw me up when i went back to the top 2 levels
I drop to sui if i want a relaxed game and get away from the intensity of Hoe.

 

[jorgamun]

lmao way to get self righteous, the OP has a perfectly viable point, a team stacked with level 6s playing on hard makes the game boring for the rest of the players who are trying to level their perks. while no, there isn't anything wrong with it persay if you'd rather play casually and not for a challenge, and if you are playing on your own server with your buddies more power to you, but dont get your panties in a bunch because the OP has a logical argument and you were offended because you still play on hard as a level 6.

+1. He's not telling how to view the game, he's telling how he views his time playing the game just like Freshmeat. The point of these threads is to discuss. It always baffles me when people come into threads to discourage discussion.

 

[Gipson]

I know some lvl6ers that play on hard just for casual, mindless shooting to take a break from Sui/hoe. I've been playing hard difficulty a bit more recently to practice my M14 (with Lar combo) and helping lower levels at the same time

 

[Keaton Fox]

All of my perks are level 6 and I pretty much only play on normal difficulty. Hard mode and higher are just too hard for me, and heck even normal mode is sometimes too hard for me. Sometimes I have to play on beginner mode to rebuild some confidence after a losing streak on normal. I don't think it's a problem that level 6 players are playing on lower difficulties.

 

[Left 4 Dinner]

All of my perks are level 6 and I pretty much only play on normal difficulty. Hard mode and higher are just too hard for me, and heck even normal mode is sometimes too hard for me. Sometimes I have to play on beginner mode to rebuild some confidence after a losing streak on normal. I don't think it's a problem that level 6 players are playing on lower difficulties.

Wait, level 6 on beginner? I mean, maybe hard can be difficult if the entire team is complete crap, and normal could be challenging if the entire team is crap and you have bad luck, but playing on beginner?


@Amber, thank you. Im not saying that people shouldnt play as a level 6 on hard, im just simply saying that its frustrating how I want to level up a perk that im learning to play (right now, im learning how to be an effective demoiltions and support player) without aving to worry about the skillful players. Ive played with quite a few level 6's, and some of them arent even that good. Heck, sometimes a level 4 was better than a level 6. Having one player whos really good at level 6, isnt going to break the game, nor is having lots of casual level 6's. Its just the ones that try too hard on Hard, that make it difficult for lower level players to learn the perk and learn how to work with other players like me.

 

[ElvenRed]

Lately I've been finding hard to be extremely boring, but I still play on those nevertheless because a few buddies I play with don't quite have enough levels to play on harder diffs (when I get to choose the server, I still try to drag them into some suicidal ones). Since I'm mostly bored throughout the match, I make sure to turn it into a mic hell 4chan opera festival.

 

[Keaton Fox]

Wait, level 6 on beginner? I mean, maybe hard can be difficult if the entire team is complete crap, and normal could be challenging if the entire team is crap and you have bad luck, but playing on beginner?

I only play on beginner as a confidence builder, or a relaxed game. I normally play on normal difficulty. I play on public servers with strangers so the team skill level is hit or miss. But normal difficulty for me is either just right or too hard.

 

[Neom.1r]

Lol at the guy coming in to 'discuss' only to be told not to go against the current and have his opinion by 2 other forum users, really pathetic.

 

[spoderman]

I find it okay ONLY if all the other players are level 6, just because it's fair game for all of them. Also, they really don't really have anything else to do in the game, yes?