Molotov cocktails

[Mormegil]

From the flamethrower thread.

Basically, it would be nice to have Molotov cocktails, especially for the urban warfare aspect of the game.

 

[REZ]

I'm not against cocktails of any type. I'd rather see usable mortars and field guns first however.

 

[barakas]

It would be nice but flame effects are hard, especially realistic spreading/physics, and doing all that puts a major load on a server.

There's probably things Tripwire could be doing that would take much less effort and make much more difference to the final product.

 

[Mormegil]

It would be nice but flame effects are hard, especially realistic spreading/physics, and doing all that puts a major load on a server.

There's probably things Tripwire could be doing that would take much less effort and make much more difference to the final product.

At least against vehicles, flame spread could be done client side via PhysX, but damage to the engine and conflagration (ammo going up) would be server side, and isn't as demanding to bandwidth/calcs.

Dunno about if you throw it at someone and you need to calculate splash damage / spread.

 

[Mormegil]

Alan Wilson (aka Wilsonam) mentioned in that Russian interview that they're doing some flame / fire tests. So it's possible if they can get it to work, we may see Molotovs.

 

[aD.Luoson]

Yeah fire is a hard one sadly, I dont think any games have really done a really good job of any type of fire weapon yet.. It would be good to see in it how ever if it can be done!

 

[guzz60]

I hope they include them, throwing a molotov into the back of a halftrack would be awesome ...

 

[OneBloodyHero]

Molotov Cocktails would be great and ideal content to add in a patch after release of HOS, since additional work is required to make it work...

Maybe we can expect it then (if at all), but probably not in the initial release...

I know that COD: World at War had a Molotov Cocktail, but it didn't work very well or as one would imagine it would in reality. The flames didn't spread as they would, and you would use them to throw against infantry, rather than against vehicles which they were primarily designed for.

It seems that it would take an ***-ton of additional work to implement realistic Molotovs. They would be cool, but you can easily use AT rifles or satchel charges to disable or kill a tank, which they (presumably) already have implemented into HOS.

 

[Dwin]

Molotov Cocktails would be great and ideal content to add in a patch after release of HOS, since additional work is required to make it work...

...Additional work is required to make anything work.

 

[Zetsumei]

I hope that moletovs and flamethrowers get in, they are somewhat trademarks of the stalingrad battle.

 

[Bobdog]

Does anyone have any good footage of a real Molotov being used? I've seen them in tv and movies, but we all know how realisic those are

I'd like to see how they behave IRL.

 

[OneBloodyHero]

...Additional work is required to make anything work.

Naturally.

No need to further prolong release of the game for alcoholic flame chucking weapons...

 

[Mormegil]

Naturally.

No need to further prolong release of the game for alcoholic flame chucking weapons...

Well it seems like a natural add-on with the first free content pack, with personnel carriers and new tanks. Molotov's and burning half-tracks just go together so well.

 

[WiFiDi]

From the flamethrower thread.

Basically, it would be nice to have Molotov cocktails, especially for the urban warfare aspect of the game.

molotovs were a very real part of ww2, (see link) however i find that making it realistic isn't everything maybe the molotovs has a reasonably unrealistic fire however it makes game-play better for fun whatever. as along as they make the game more fun a little bit of inaccuracy is fine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov_cocktail

 

[<animal>INSTINCT]

Alan Wilson (aka Wilsonam) mentioned in that Russian interview that they're doing some flame / fire tests. So it's possible if they can get it to work, we may see Molotovs.

Wilsonam...last seen shooting a flamethrower and playing with matches in his backyard

 

[evulclown]

Does anyone have any good footage of a real Molotov being used? I've seen them in tv and movies, but we all know how realisic those are

I'd like to see how they behave IRL.

You mean being thrown in general? Or footage of them being used on vehicles / buildings / people?


YouTube - Rioters throw molitive cocktails at police in Thessaloniki.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrBaM1Y2N1c
YouTube - Perfect Molotov Cocktail
YouTube - Molotov!!
YouTube - Molotov Cocktail
YouTube - molotov cocktail 2
YouTube - biggest molotov cocktail ever
YouTube - world's largest molotov cocktail thrown off 100 foot cliff
YouTube - Molotov Cocktail Baseball!!! (Near Death)
YouTube - Huge Molotov Cocktail #1
YouTube - Molotov Bomb

Alan Wilson (aka Wilsonam) mentioned in that Russian interview that they're doing some flame / fire tests. So it's possible if they can get it to work, we may see Molotovs.

Hell yes, that's what we like to hear. This well done in an expansion pack is vital! This one's for you Alan Wilson, you demigod

YouTube - Flame Thrower

 

[evulclown]

Odly I can't add this to my previous post, but yeah a bomb thrown at someone.

youtube.com/watch?v=NrBaM1Y2N1c <--- type that one manually... it won't link from this forum odly, which is annoying because it's a good example..

YouTube - Molotov to the face
YouTube - Petrol Bomb
YouTube - Petrol bomb training
YouTube - RIOTING IN 2005
YouTube - drumcree riots
YouTube - Raining Petrol Bombs

 

[Mormegil]

Well it's one thing to see a burning Molotov on flat ground, it would be something else to see it on the uneven surface of a vehicle.

Also remember the mass produced Soviet Molotovs had rubber added to it as a thickening agent, and were self igniting.

 

[evulclown]

Check the videos I posted of riots, there's petrol bombs hitting the armoured cars. And yeah the mass produced Russian version was self igniting and had effectively napalm inside. I don't think youtube has videos of that

 

[Floyd]

Does anyone have any good footage of a real Molotov being used? I've seen them in tv and movies, but we all know how realisic those are

I'd like to see how they behave IRL.

I can't recall where (a PBS documentary?), but recently I saw a broadcast about Stalingrad. There was footage of the Soviets preparing molotavs en mass. No footage of them being used however.

I've been recording the series "WWII in HD Color" that is playing on PBS now. I've been watching when I have time. Perhaps they'll have an episode covering the Eastern front. Thus far its been Allies vs Germany or Allies vs Japan.