MG works.....

[retrofly]

But needs less recoil.

I won a 64 player round on Barracks last night with the Russian MG, but boy was it tough.

I've found out that you can't do well with an MG in the thick of Combat (IE around cap zones).

The only way I was successful was cutting off German lines of resupply.

I woul move to a position where I could see the Germans either resupplying cap zones or moving the the left flank (You know that really long building that every man and his dog likes to hide out in if your Axis).

I was concentrating my firing arcs on areas of open space, meaning I couldn't get picked off by a sniper in a window.

I was able to cut down axis fighters as they crossed my vision.

However I ahd to relocate, a lot. Your talking only firing from a position for about 30 seconds to a minute. Any longer and someone who's wise to you will peep round and take your head off.

If you can catch em off guard you can get 3 or 4 good kills, the move and do the same.

However the MG's could do with a buff, the recoil is crazy, seems worse than a braced MP40, I was pretty much firing the russian MG single shot sometimes, even though theres no option. At any distances over 100 metres the recoil more than the height of a running man meaning it's pretty easy to miss people far away, even more so when they are in cover (Although when they are in light cover you just spray the wall and wait for the death message ).

So yes you can do well with an MG, but it's hard and can only deployed in a specific role, it can no longer dominate a battlefield like it should be able to.

 

[Haruhi]

However the MG's could do with a buff, the recoil is crazy, seems worse than a braced MP40, I was pretty much firing the russian MG single shot sometimes, even though theres no option. At any distances over 100 metres the recoil more than the height of a running man meaning it's pretty easy to miss people far away, even more so when they are in cover (Although when they are in light cover you just spray the wall and wait for the death message ).

So yes you can do well with an MG, but it's hard and can only deployed in a specific role, it can no longer dominate a battlefield like it should be able to.

To be frankly, no.

The recoil is good as it is, the LMG is well balanced.
The recoil ans spread on a LMG are compensated with more bullets.

 

[jergul]

I am not so sure about dominating battlefields in the close quater battles of Stalingrad.

I have noted that some things have potential.

One is setting up a lateral fire lane. Where the enemy can see you only as he enters the lane and preferably without any cover.

Internal building defence is another. There are places were an mg can wreak havoc. I am particularly fond of soft cover for enemy under those conditions. Something your bullets can penetrate, but usually not his. Fire lanes are per above still go. Hostiles need to move into your line of fire before they can shoot at your.

Long distance interdiction (defined as cutting off route from spawn) is the third one. Blind fire is quite possible - you fire on the expectation enemies will cross your line. So you want to be close to an ammo dump or on a team that listens when you spam I need ammo.

Distance is where mgs dominated. At ranges beyond say 250 m. Am pretty sure they dominate beyond that range in game too. If you can find the position. And keep up the rate of fire.

The heavies are actually pretty cool if you can man them in time. You need to use them at range. The longer the better.

I like the way the mg bounces. 3 shot bursts...after that things go to hell. Remember to not walk and shoot. Then things go to hell immediately

 

[FBX]

My issue so far with the MG is I get shot behind cover a lot even when pressing duck/reloading. It wouldn't hurt to have the player hunker a little lower.

 

[KrvKrvavu]

Russian MG works fine if you ask me, yesterday i had 31 kills in maybe 20 minutes of playing grain elevator before game crashed to desktop
People dont use smoke, and that was paradise for MG.
I was in prone position, deeper in the building watching right flank, fireing short bursts up to 3 rounds. I didnt change position because they coudnt come near enough to terminate me with a bomb. As jergul says i set a lateral fire lane and now and them peeped to fire on german supply lines where i got up to a 2-3 kills in a few bursts because Germans runned in groups without smoke cover.
Recoil is ok, precision is good even on greater distances, i must say that is much more precise than in Ostfront. Changeing the drum is takening some longer than before but its ok.

 

[retrofly]

Whiel reploading aim your player upwards, this moves your character even lower, try it.

Also how the hell do you blind fire, I still havn't figured it out and I've played about about 20 hours.

 

[Vyllis]

Also how the hell do you blind fire, I still havn't figured it out and I've played about about 20 hours.

He mean firing at a position that you didn't have a direct visual contact. Fog, dust, too far away...

Correct me if i'm wrong

 

[Stahlhelmii]

Whiel reploading aim your player upwards, this moves your character even lower, try it.

Also how the hell do you blind fire, I still havn't figured it out and I've played about about 20 hours.

Hit the fire (left mouse) button while you tucked behind cover and move from side to side.

 

[jergul]

Yah, that is what I meant by blind fire.

 

[retrofly]

You have to move side to side?

So its left click, the hold right to lean out and fire round a right corner?

Is it possible to just duck on an MG at any other time than reloading?

 

[Derpus]

You have to move side to side?

So its left click, the hold right to lean out and fire round a right corner?

Is it possible to just duck on an MG at any other time than reloading?

No, just click fire when you're behind the wall in cover.

 

[retrofly]

Hmmm that never works when I try it, does it work with rifles or is it only SMG's MG's?

 

[Coreldan]

You can duck with MG at any given time when its deployed at a standing-height thing. Just press C and you will duck similarly as to when you are reloading. It's a great thing for survival and confusing enemies.

Blind fire works with rifles too.

 

[retrofly]

Awww man alll these features I don't know about. Need basic training

 

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[rta]

Hmmm that never works when I try it, does it work with rifles or is it only SMG's MG's?

you kinda have to point out towards the edge of the wall you are shooting around for it to work right. it makes you feel totally bad ***.

 

[retrofly]

Its odd becuase i never see anyone doing it to me

 

[Nezzer]

Like I said in another thread, bullet penetration changes everything about MG tactics. You can't just deploy your MG behind a wooden house window anymore and expect to dominate the battlefield there. Also, MGs were not good in short distances IRL, unless they have the support of other players or if deployed in a choke point like a corridor, a narrow street or a staircase. If you play a bit in Fallen Fighters you can see clearly it's pretty easy for a machine gunner to dominate the battlefield.

 

[NinetyNine]

I love the MG's and play them pretty exclusively, but I find them to be horribly inaccurate at long ranges. Not sure if it's lag related or just the actual MG, but I don't have the problem whenever I play rifle. With the MG I can have something dead center in the sight and still not hit it. I get most of my kills with it at mid range while covering a very narrow field of fire.

 

[wokelly]

I also have been having a good time with the Russian LMG, at barracks I can wrack up the kills if I can get into a good position. Really you need to have played the map several times before you can be a good LMGer, you need to know the layout of the map and where reinforcements have to cross, and setup accordingly. Being surrounded by friendlies help a lot, and you need to setup in the corner of a window, and shoot at oblique angles, not setup in the middle and try to cover your 180 degree vision arc. You will get picked off if you setup in the middle of a window, but setting up on the side and shooting at oblique angles makes you harder to hit.