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Jank

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He's talking about the Russian Ourah! Charge, not the Japanese banzai charge.


And the Russian one, frankly, I think you never ever see, and it never makes any difference at all in the game because it lends no buff to damage resistance. Very much unlike the Japanese banzai charge, which is fantastic and common.
 

RenzR

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That right there is an LMG, as its on a Bi-pod. The HMG is on a Tri-pod, and are currently only available as stationary weapons on the map.

well the russian one does not overheat too, and even has a much longer magazine. so what?
 
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well the russian one does not overheat too, and even has a much longer magazine. so what?
IRL Maxim machinegun was a lot less prone to overheating than MG34 or MG42 for several reasons. Maxim was a water cooled machine gun, while MG34 and MG42 relied on air cooling and barrel changing. Maxim also shoots in lower rate of fire than MG34 (~600 vs ~900) which reduces overheating. As for longer "magazine" (or ammo belt), I think Maxim and MG34 on lafette both have 250 round belts, but Maxim's belt lasts longer because of lower rate of fire. Either way, the barrel of MG34 on a lafette should overheat same way as MG34's on a bipod.
 

Zakarro

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OP, here's a thread you might find of interest relating to your original post.

[url]http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=102901&highlight=kar98k&page=2[/URL]

I'd advise dropping the rest of it, you're outgunned with Aaz.

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He's talking about the Russian Ourah! Charge, not the Japanese banzai charge.


And the Russian one, frankly, I think you never ever see, and it never makes any difference at all in the game because it lends no buff to damage resistance. Very much unlike the Japanese banzai charge, which is fantastic and common.

The Russian charge is not fueled by drugs and sake, just a hoorah chant for morale.
 

Raven1986

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All this talk about enemy weapons and heroes. I have always been a fan of giving the malper the ability and not the game to choose the weapons.

Weapons that I would vanquish from selection are certainly the MkB42 and on most maps the G41.
Semiauto riflemen would receive a pilfered SVT40. Germans would at least the squad and team leader have the opportunity to choose the PPSh41 as over 3 million units were captured in 1941-42. It was adopted as the MP717(r). Even the DP28 was handed out as the MG100(r). However bolt-action certainly were not issued to active combat units. They stayed with their Karabiner 98k's.

However, what could change the imbalance is that the Soviets were the avantgarde with SMG squads. If I was designing a map I would give always double of Assault slots to the Soviets. If Germans have 5, Soviets get 10. Over one third of the team has SMGs, actually half with squad and team leader.

Germans would receive more MGs than Soviets as the infantry squad was based around the MG.
 

=GG= Mr Moe

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All this talk about enemy weapons and heroes. I have always been a fan of giving the malper the ability and not the game to choose the weapons... snip

Ahh, for mappers to be able to assign weapons and classes like you could in ROOST. Gone in RO2 most likely because of weapon and class progression :rolleyes:
 

Beskar Mando

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I've said this before, and I'll say it again. IT IS POSSIBLE FOR MAPPERS TO SELECT WEAPON LOPADOUTS.... assuming someone is willing to code variants of roles (me or someone else...) and have them whitelisted. I'd be happy to do it, though considering I don't know how much people want it, I don't know if I'll do it.
This is all assuming TWI would whitelist it.
 

Raven1986

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Damn AAZ, production was 2 million, just checked the book again. I thought that they had produced more already. Still Germans captured large quantities and Soviets should have double of SMG class than Germans.
 

Bat Guano

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-the one that is dearest to me is the unbalance between the k98k and the russian counterpart the mosin nagant. Rifleman is my favourite class and thus I play mostly in that role, and I must say that it is damaged by an unfair balance between the two rifles: the k98 was a modern bolt action carabine for the time, it was light, accurate, fast, and short. Because of those reasons it should be more accurate than the mosin nagant (a late '800 long, heavy, old rifle), and it should also have much less sway. Moreover you should correct the fact that at close range the k98 shoots higher than were it actually aims.

Have you ever actually fired any real K98s and M91/30s? I have a few examples of each and can say that with regard to practical accuracy there is very little difference. I would agree that on average, a K98 may be expected to be slightly more accurate than a 91/30, but the margin is slim. From a solid rest, either can be expected to group all of its shots into an area smaller than a human head at 100 meters, and most of the time at 200 meters.

The K98 does have a more modern and refined action. The bolt works more smoothly, and the rimless rounds are held onto the stripper clips by spring tension and slip into the magazine more smoothly than the Mosin's rimmed rounds, which are held into the clip by friction. The Mauser action can therefore probably be worked a little more quickly than the Mosin's, and reloading accomplished a little more quickly, but again it's a slight difference.

One area where the Mosin has an advantage, in my opinion, is the sights. In real life, they tend to be quicker to align and allow for more precise aiming than the Mauser's. The Mauser has a better trigger, however, usually with a lighter and almost always a crisper action than the long and spongy feeling Mosin trigger, so this gives an edge to the Mauser for precise shooting.

As for weight and balance, there is not a lot of difference. The Mosin is longer, but not so much that it feels particularly awkward. It's longer, but it also feels a little slimmer in the hands. The 91/30 is significantly shorter than the original M91 which was used in WWI. (The G98 used by the Germans in WWI was also quite a bit longer than the K98.) The weight of the K98 and the 91/30 has always felt about the same to me. Out of curiosity I looked it up on a couple of sources. Wikipedia lists the weight of the K98 at 3.7 to 4.1 kg, and the length at 1110mm, and the weight of the 91/30 at 4kg and the length at 1232mm. World.guns.ru puts the K98 at 3.92kg and 1101mm, and the 91/30 at 3.9kg and 1234mm.
 

Raven1986

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only in your dreams probably

Okay, let's rephrase this. The production number until 1942 was 2 million not 3. I searched a lot on the web, yet the only answer on the amount of guns in German hands is "large quantities", that's about as precise as asking for the cupsize and receiving the answer "they are large". :D

Even if the entire amount of PPSh41's came into the possession of the German Army, does it really matter? We can simply agree that the PPSh41 was as common as the MP38/40 on the Eastern Front in the ranks of the German Army.

An enemy weapon the Red Army utilized in large numbers during late war was the captured Panzerfaust and Panzerschreck.
If there were late war maps and I was able to map properly, be sure the Red Army AT class would receive this stuff from me personally.

Nevertheless, I still believe that Soviets should receive larger quantities of SMGs in their time. At least a 3rd needs to able to grab an SMG if they want to.