Melee weapons breaking system?

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Fedorov

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I was thinking that there are too many melee weapons and only one that is worth using.

What if those weapons break after a while?, that would make berserkers carry additional melee weapons
 

Fedorov

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Sounds cool too me O_O but how many berserkers do you actually see?

also :/ i don't want my knife to die on me! :(

it could be true for all weapons except for the knife, and machete, but make axe, chainsaw and katana breakable.
 

Fedorov

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Sounds interesting, but you're basically nerfing the zerker into oblivion.

Well... nerfing the class is not my objective, only to enforce variety, and make them have to manage their economy in some way and use a bit more of their brains.

I also think that berserkers should resist more damage, as they make very poor tanks now
 

YFGHNG

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Mm I see what you mean. It'll give zerkers something to spend their money on. But you're also making it so that their weapons are now like short range guns. Ammo = durability,
 

Major Liability

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I'd hate to have to deal with that as a berserker, the fact that your primary weapon doesn't rely on ammo is one of the best things about the perk in the first place. On the other hand, it would be much more realistic if the weapons could break (I imagine the katana and chainsaw would be the most fragile). If they were to add melee weapon wear, I'd at least like to be able to avoid it with proper use. For example, you would lose no durability if you only go for head slices with the katana, but slashing a FP in the chest would break it quickly.
 
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vealck

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- Not very realistic, melee weapons made of steel do not deter noticeably from contact with flesh or bone. If players were able to block fleshpound's / scrake's / gorefast's attack with their weapon, that would have some sense.

- Further nerfing the poor ol' berserker is just nuts. Bringing chainsaw to its former glory and making it consume fuel would have more sense.
 

KingJoker

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- Not very realistic, melee weapons made of steel do not deter noticeably from contact with flesh or bone. If players were able to block fleshpound's / scrake's / gorefast's attack with their weapon, that would have some sense.

- Further nerfing the poor ol' berserker is just nuts. Bringing chainsaw to its former glory and making it consume fuel would have more sense.

GENIUS! I VOTE FOR VEALCK's IDEA!
 

Johnny86

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unfortunately, i think this will inevitably lead to the buying and dropping of multiple melee weapons.

i understand your goal is to encourage the use of melee weapons other than the katana, but i think this just ends up hurting the zerker.

since the katana was introduced, there really isn't a reason (that i know of) to use any other melee weapon. it has good damage, fast rate of attack, fast running speed, light weight, and a relatively low cost. other melee weapons can't really compete.

i play zerk alot and mostly use the axe, not because it is better, but because i just prefer it. most other classes have some choices for their top-tier weapon, but with the chainsaw the way it is, if u want to survive on harded difficulties, you use the katana.

sorry, i'm going off topic. this is a nice idea, but in the end i think it does more harm than good for the zerk.
 

Entangler

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The other melee weapons are hardly used because they're hardly worth using. Nerfing the only one that is isn't going to help anything, I'm afraid.

If your goal is really to encourage the use of a varied melee arsenal, giving those other weapons a purpose in their own right is the way to go.
 

YFGHNG

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If your goal is really to encourage the use of a varied melee arsenal, giving those other weapons a purpose in their own right is the way to go.

The chainsaw has a purpose. To be a replacement for katana in times of server lag or when there's like a bazillion specs in front of you. I don't know whether or not katana lag attacks count.

Machete serves to be sold.

Fire axe serves as a replacement for killing fp's if no other melee weapon is around.
 

KingJoker

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The chainsaw has a purpose. To be a replacement for katana in times of server lag or when there's like a bazillion specs in front of you. I don't know whether or not katana lag attacks count.

Machete serves to be sold.

Fire axe serves as a replacement for killing fp's if no other melee weapon is around.

The alt fire of a chainsaw is more powerful then that of a katans.... if not faster.... is it not?
 

YFGHNG

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The alt fire of a chainsaw is more powerful then that of a katans.... if not faster.... is it not?

Alt fire speed of a chainsaw is indeed faster than katana alt fire. However, katana regular attack more than makes up for that. That, and with chainsaw, you lose your entire zerker speed bonus for melee weapons. They are both of the same strength, if you aim for the body. However, the katana has a more direct "head aiming" alt fire, as opposed to chainsaw.
 

KingJoker

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Alt fire speed of a chainsaw is indeed faster than katana alt fire. However, katana regular attack more than makes up for that. That, and with chainsaw, you lose your entire zerker speed bonus for melee weapons. They are both of the same strength, if you aim for the body. However, the katana has a more direct "head aiming" alt fire, as opposed to chainsaw.

Then TWI failed around 7 months ago.
 

Olivier

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LOL, that would be fun if your chainsaw would no longer works after 1 min ^^
 

Deathtyrant

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Instead of durability, how about you have to repair the weapon or else it does lower damage. Perhaps an icon of the weapon in the corner where ammo goes and as you do damage it goes from blue to green to yellow to orange to red and if it hits black it breaks. That would require the berserker to recharge his weapon at the trader much like you do with the kevlar vests :D