Medic Class
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People can't even play Squad Leader properly, and the role is not very difficult (put down smoke, use the binocs to mark arty). What makes you think they'll play Medic properly?
Adding a medic class into RO has been tossed around since the mod days and has yet to ever be in the game due to one argument or another.
I personally can't see the logic in having such a class in Red Orchestra as most of the people being shot & killed in the game are usually out in the open or those seriously wounded would probably die before the medic could find them on the map.
On top of that, most medics in WWII wore big red crosses on their arms and didn't carry any weapons to shoot back to note them as non-combatants in the battlefield and thus, protected by the geneva convention, as well, medics were required to treat both their own forces as well as the enemy's forces who were wounded on the battlefield.
"According to the Geneva Convention, knowingly firing at a medic wearing clear insignia is a war crime"
And despite what many might say about Red Orchestra, RO isn't designed to promote War Crimes.
Of course the moment they fire a weapon, even in self defense, they are no longer protected by the Geneva Convention.
I just don't see any practical use for a Medic being in Red Orchestra.
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They would be still protected should they be only tasked to mind the sick and the wounded.
Chapter IV, art 24:
Art. 24. Medical personnel exclusively engaged in the search for, or the collection, transport or treatment of the wounded or sick, or in the prevention of disease, staff exclusively engaged in the administration of medical units and establishments, as well as chaplains attached to the armed forces, shall be respected and protected in all circumstances.
But Chapter IV, art 25:
"Art. 25. Members of the armed forces specially trained for employment, should the need arise, as hospital orderlies, nurses or auxiliary stretcher-bearers, in the search for or the collection, transport or treatment of the wounded and sick shall likewise be respected and protected if they are carrying out these duties at the time when they come into contact with the enemy or fall into his hands."
Army medics can engage in fighting as normal soldiers and they can be shot at. They are only protected when minding the sick and the wounded.
Distinction is not very clear.
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I doubt it's taken seriously by anyone in a real war. When **** hits the fan, people will do whatever is needed to protect the lives of themselves and their comrades.
Now I've never been in a real war, but one movie that I think portrayed it well was the movie "Stalingrad". There was this scene where they were in a large building, shooting at eachother. After a while the shooting stopped and they made a deal that they could both get the bodies of their dead comrades.
The condition was that both parties would cease fire until they managed to carry the bodies away. But since they couldn't trust the enemy, they were constantly watching what the enemy would do.
One soldier was so incredibly paranoid that he thought that an enemy soldier was about to shoot his comrade. So he fired a shot and hell broke loose. Everyone started shooting eachother, even the medics weren't spared.
I can imagine that there's situations in real life where the Geneva Convention asks for a little bit of humanity, but it gets simply crushed by the extreme paranoia and hate towards the enemy.
Now I can imagine that back home that soldier would face the military court or whatever instance oversees the punishment of bad behaviour.
But when I had to choose between my life or the Geneva Convention, my choice would be very clear.
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How about having the opportunity to bandage their fellow soldiers?
aim to add steam "Good Samaritan" ...
I could stand behind this; I always feel like complete garbage when I see someone standing and swaying around as they bleed out. It would be nice if there was some way to help them out, but at the same time, it might be more work than it is worth for it to be in-game. Just a thought.
I dont really want to die because all medics are too busy camping at our base.
p.s. Medics were protected by enemy having wounded soldiers themselves. You start shooting their medic, they shoot yours, then if you get wounded there'll be no one to treat you and you'll have to die a slow and painful death. I really dont think anyone gave a **** about not shooting medics (or anything else) with 150mm+ HE shells inderect artillery fire.
p.s. Medics were protected by enemy having wounded soldiers themselves. You start shooting their medic, they shoot yours, then if you get wounded there'll be no one to treat you and you'll have to die a slow and painful death. I really dont think anyone gave a **** about not shooting medics (or anything else) with 150mm+ HE shells inderect artillery fire.
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how bout this?
Meet the Medic - YouTube
Its ironic because you see a GERMAN medic healing and teamworking with a Russian heavy
Meet the Medic - YouTube
Its ironic because you see a GERMAN medic healing and teamworking with a Russian heavy
The thing is, I presume the majority of you have seen medics in either RL warfare or movie warfare. The medics always seem to have bullets flying around them and are never hit. This is partly because of the cover fire the squad is providing and nervousness of the opposite side.
In a video game, there is little nervousness and little cover fire from the majority of servers.
If you were a medic I think many would simply just be cut down along with their friends. I mean yes there are situations where you could easily bandage people, but it would need to be thought through very carefully.
Would it still count as a kill?
Would bleed out times have to be increased?
Would the medic have a SMG? Or no gun at all?
Would the medic have increased sprint.
I personally think that the only way for the medic to be able to work effiecently would be to implement a "drag" button. So you can drag your comrade to safely quickly. Even then, it's a large stretch.
But I would love it to be possible.
In a video game, there is little nervousness and little cover fire from the majority of servers.
If you were a medic I think many would simply just be cut down along with their friends. I mean yes there are situations where you could easily bandage people, but it would need to be thought through very carefully.
Would it still count as a kill?
Would bleed out times have to be increased?
Would the medic have a SMG? Or no gun at all?
Would the medic have increased sprint.
I personally think that the only way for the medic to be able to work effiecently would be to implement a "drag" button. So you can drag your comrade to safely quickly. Even then, it's a large stretch.
But I would love it to be possible.
short story: NO
long story:
The devs said clearly that there wont be any medics. Sad but true. End of story.
please read the Best and worst of suggestion - Look here before posting!
there you will find all ideas that were already made in this forum.
(medic threads were made at least 50 times!)
peace.
long story:
The devs said clearly that there wont be any medics. Sad but true. End of story.
please read the Best and worst of suggestion - Look here before posting!
there you will find all ideas that were already made in this forum.
(medic threads were made at least 50 times!)
peace.
This is one of the best suggestions I have heard.
A medic would definitely have an SMG because they would need to be where the action is. I think regular soldiers should not have bandages, and would have to be patched up from a medic. Possible each soldier has one bandage, and the medic can resupply you one when you run out.
A medic would definitely have an SMG because they would need to be where the action is. I think regular soldiers should not have bandages, and would have to be patched up from a medic. Possible each soldier has one bandage, and the medic can resupply you one when you run out.