[Game] Medal Of Honor:Warfighter

[DraKon2k]

Well, for the positive: It would be interesting if it followed different units in SP and not just OMG AMERICANS again. And the rainy, flooded city level COULD be cool.

For the negative: Seriously who the hell needs another generic modern warfare FPS? It's the same as with (the) AC3 (trailer), it's just SO MUCH MORE OF THE SAME. If at least they would advance the graphics, but I think it'll probably be half-assed console frostbite for PC like with NFS: The Run instead of BF3 awesome except for the blue-filter frostbite.

 

[Rak]

Attention, rant ahead.

A sped up Battlefield again? Nothing to see here folks. Besides, the "special ops" theme is getting boring really quick. It reached it's singplayer potential with MW1 and then everybody who were busy making WW2 games screamed "DOSH!" and went right in. It's been really boring ever since.

The last game of this type I finished was MW2 and I barely kept myself playing just to finish it. Black Ops? I tried it for 15 minutes, it was beyond boring. If it weren't for the amazing multiplayer, BF3 is also in this category. Didn't touch the SP.

Seriously, the last "mainstream FPS" that I enjoyed going through it's singleplayer was the KZ3. Sure, it was the same old "blockbuster" fest with big explosions and other cliche, but deep background story combined with incredible art was what kept me going. Gameplay was also much more "deeper" than it's competitors, with weighty movement and satisfying gun handling. AI was challenging and every enemy type had it's unique AI behaviour, they wanted to survive. It would make an incredible PC game. I'm trying hard to think another FPS I loved playing through and the only one I remember is Bioshock, and that is a 2007 game.

The only way "modern combat" theme can appeal to me right now is more depth. Both in story and gameplay. Give me some time to get to know the characters and story. Don't dump me in an epic battle I don't care about after 2 minutes of intro. It seems in the pursuit of "epicness" the story telling has diminished totally. I've seen countless cities getting nuked, civilians getting murdered and I barely cared. It was all there for the "OMG now we'll just nuke their capital here, players will be shocked and think this was the most epic game they've played!" factor, there was nothing leading up to it that could make me care.

Also slower. A singleplayer doesn't have to be %100 action for 5 hours, add some kind of exploration/investigation in the mix. Let us interact, deepen the story meanwhile. During combat allow me to plan my fight, let me take cover. Let me try something new(again KZ2/3 allowed this).

It seems we're stuck between FPS' that we're essentially fed Michael Bay movies with a shovel and huge RPG/ FPS' that give infinite freedom but with limited storytelling intensity compared to traditional FPS'. No more Vietcong"s, Half-Life's, Bioshock's. Everybody is afraid to try something new and I hate it. Only consoles offer something new for the sake of "exclusivity" but as a mainly PC gamer, It's not enough.

Necessary TWI Bash: Just as I wanted something "slower", "tactical" and "deep" TWI managed to deliver something completely opposite. It's one of the reasons I'm really bitter with RO2.

 

[Flogger23m]

Well, in BF3, the main character you play as is not SF if I recall correctly. If they were to make a Vietnam game or two you would all complain about the Vietnam War theme, so they would change it to Korea, to future, ect.

I agree about the stories though. The nuclear weapon used on civilian theme worked nice in Ace Combat 5/Z (2005/2006) but it is now very over done, both in games and movies. Or they replace it with something else (CoD BO) but the result is the same. Which brings up another question: what kind of a story has not been done before? Probably not many options left.

 

[DraKon2k]

Just have to comment @KZ3. Blockbuster gameplay? The campaign was 100x more boring than the average cod campaign imo, simply bad pacing when 99% of the time consists of shooting badguys. The only exception really was the jungle level(which didn't look like a jungle at all), which was a welcome change in pace but the only one really. And incredible art? This is the worst ps3 game in terms of jaggies. It always gave me eye cancer. I mean seriously how could they screwup anti-aliasing so much, it doesn't just look like there is none but worse. Also everything is brown/grey(in the snow chapters), and the only exception is again the jungle level.

 

[Rak]

Well, in BF3, the main character you play as is not SF if I recall correctly. If they were to make a Vietnam game or two you would all complain about the Vietnam War theme, so they would change it to Korea, to future, ect.

I think it's more about the storytelling and gameplay than the setting, but still having a "Modern Combat" or "World War 2" theme really limits your options and people/publishers automatically expect a MW clone.

I think the "Sci-Fi" setting is something I'm really interested in right now and it usually allows the developers to try new things in both gameplay and storytelling rather than going through same "terrorist cleaning" missions over and over.

Just have to comment @KZ3. Blockbuster gameplay? The campaign was 100x more boring than the average cod campaign imo, simply bad pacing when 99% of the time consists of shooting badguys. The only exception really was the jungle level(which didn't look like a jungle at all), which was a welcome change in pace but the only one really. And incredible art? This is the worst ps3 game in terms of jaggies. It always gave me eye cancer. I mean seriously how could they screwup anti-aliasing so much, it doesn't just look like there is none but worse. Also everything is brown/grey(in the snow chapters), and the only exception is again the jungle level.

KZ3 was in no means perfect, but it is still a better game than all the other clone FPS' out there in terms of story, gameplay, atmosphere, AI, combat and graphics. Also it's amusing you've completely misunderstood what "game art" means. I like Killzone's dark "WW2 in space" style, especially Helghast and how they look. I don't give a rat's *** about what anti-aliasing method they use, as long as it complements the graphics and IMO it did.

Beware I'm not going to argue further with you, since you've started to behave like a 12 years old kid took over your account lately.

 

[Flogger23m]

I think the "Sci-Fi" setting is something I'm really interested in right now and it usually allows the developers to try new things in both gameplay and storytelling rather than going through same "terrorist cleaning" missions over and over.

But there are already plenty of sci fi shooters out there.

 

[Amerikaner]

They couldn't even try and spin it to be somehow more unique like making a realistic storyline inspired by Generation Kill or something like that? Nope, more generic action set pieces and insinuating god-like super warriors. What a shame. Besides a few gems here and there, this industry is operating at a level so far below its potential its embarrassing.

 

[CharlieDay]

play catch up to CoD and BF all the while sounding as generic as possible. It's as if they just want CoD clone money and don't actually want to have real success with a proper reboot.

It's all about money these days. I mean just look at TWI and RO2. While they didnt clone COD, they cloned many aspects of it and gave it a COD feel right onto the market (just look at the cover art) in order to make as much money as possible at the start, THEN they did an about face and started on their REAL RO project after the novelty of it's release wore off. Sneaky bastards.

 

[Murphy]

When I looked for some gameplay snippets of "Warfighter" earlier and found some videos where someone was presumably playing the other recent Medal of Honor while talking about Warfighter I had to read through a couple of pages of comments to find out what game I was even looking at!

I think the floating numbers when you shoot someone are less blue and more greenish white in the recent Call of Duties, right? I don't know. :/

The first two thirds of that trailer above (that was taken down now due to "a copyright claim by EA", lol... I wish I had an idea of what these marketing people are thinking...) would make a respectable trailer for a Predator game, btw.

 

[Flogger23m]

They couldn't even try and spin it to be somehow more unique like making a realistic storyline inspired by Generation Kill or something like that? Nope, more generic action set pieces and insinuating god-like super warriors. What a shame. Besides a few gems here and there, this industry is operating at a level so far below its potential its embarrassing.

I can't command on this new MoH, but 2010''s characters did not seem very much like super warriors to me. Obviously due to the gameplay style there were parts in which you had to kill obscene numbers of bad guys but that is how FPS games are. While the story wasn't an accurate portrayal of the war in Afghanistan (and who would expect a mainstream game to be, both due to the general population not being interested + the topic being too much of a taboo?), it least it gave a realistic impression for a mainstream product/media.

It was not a great game, but it was far better than the CoD games. If this sequel can take it to the next level and maybe add some more authenticity (doubtful) it can be a decent game. And if the MP is like BF3 hardcore with infantry only I think I would find a lot of enjoyment in it.

 

[Grabbed_by_the_Spetsnaz]

Well, in BF3, the main character you play as is not SF if I recall correctly. If they were to make a Vietnam game or two you would all complain about the Vietnam War theme, so they would change it to Korea, to future, ect.

To be fair, over the last 10 years, WW2, Vietnam, and US vs Commies/turbans is basically the only 3 wars we have ever seen in a mainstream game... (With a few exceptions of course)

 

[Flogger23m]

To be fair, over the last 10 years, WW2, Vietnam, and US vs Commies/turbans is basically the only 3 wars we have ever seen in a mainstream game... (With a few exceptions of course)

I'm not sure I'd put the USSR/Russia in the same category as terrorists. A US VS Iraq during Desert Shield/Storm would be interesting for me. I remember there was a series of PS2 games about that war though.

 

[GeneralGinger]

The first two thirds of that trailer above would make a respectable trailer for a Predator game.

This is very true, yet nobody ever does any Predator games.

It seems like all the games that come out using frostbite 2 are more like movies then games. Kinda like Metal Gear, But not as sleep inducing.

 

[Borkac]

im not looking forward to this because its not on steam.

 

[Flogger23m]

im not looking forward to this because its not on steam.

Overall Origin is inferior at the time being, but it isn't that bad.

 

[Snuffeldjuret]

What I hate most about origin is that it has it's own friend list system, compared to steam which has the same list for everything =).

 

[Grobut]

It's good to see that EA still doesen't learn from it's mistakes, then all is as usual.

MoH:Tier1 failed on it's arse since nobody wanted a CoD clone when they could just play CoD instead like everyone else does. But hey, that's no reason not to try it again right?

And whilst they are at it, remember how a few years back EA's reputation was so much in the gutter they "tried not to be so evil anymore"? Yeah but that's no reason not to go straight back to those same shady buisness practices that put their rep in the gutter the first place, right? That'll go over well with the consumers right?

 

[Pectus]

EA CEO John Riccitiello On Gaming Microtransactions - YouTube

 

[Grabbed_by_the_Spetsnaz]

EA CEO John Riccitiello On Gaming Microtransactions - YouTube

If I see one ounce of microtransactions in MoH:W I'm done with EA, I'm already fighting against my better judgment to get excited about this game, if this happens it will be the final straw that broke the camels back...

 

[Flogger23m]

What I hate most about origin is that it has it's own friend list system, compared to steam which has the same list for everything =).

I'd rather have separate friends lists for my programs. I don't want all of my programs linked together, and linked to facebook and other junk.