SP is 2,5-3 hours boring fully sripted campaign with very poor AI enemies. Not worth it.
However if you liked mp beta, you can get this game only for MP.
[Game] Medal Of Honor (2010)
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SP is 2,5-3 hours boring fully sripted campaign with very poor AI enemies. Not worth it.
However if you liked mp beta, you can get this game only for MP.
How about the MP side of things. From the MP beta, the MP didn't seem all that bad. When I played the beta I was hooked and wanted to buy the game just on that experience alone.
However seeing people report in about it, I have seconds thoughts. However, the people "reviewing" the game are mostly commenting on the SP side of the game. If I remember correctly, the SP side of MW1 or MW2 wasn't all that great either and mostly people enjoy it for the MP portion of the game.
However seeing people report in about it, I have seconds thoughts. However, the people "reviewing" the game are mostly commenting on the SP side of the game. If I remember correctly, the SP side of MW1 or MW2 wasn't all that great either and mostly people enjoy it for the MP portion of the game.
Ok, so I didn't realize it but....
MoH is two largely different games.
The SP is done on Unreal 3 and feature a lot of things like sliding into cover ect... Danger Close did the SP version.
The MP is done on the Frostbite Engine, and was done by DICE. If it seems similar to BC2, that's why. It includes none of the movement stuff from the SP campaign, and has it's own systems for what you play, what you unlock, blah blah...
So they're basically two completely different experiences, save the continuities in the setting. Gamespy described the MP as "BC2 without all the vehicles" and I assume not nearly as much destructible terrain.
Maybe it's been mentioned around and I just missed it, but this is rather bizarre. More Bizarre than the whole Call of Duty: Infinity Ward/ Call of Duty: Treyarch thing. It's like that, only housed in one game.
MoH is two largely different games.
The SP is done on Unreal 3 and feature a lot of things like sliding into cover ect... Danger Close did the SP version.
The MP is done on the Frostbite Engine, and was done by DICE. If it seems similar to BC2, that's why. It includes none of the movement stuff from the SP campaign, and has it's own systems for what you play, what you unlock, blah blah...
So they're basically two completely different experiences, save the continuities in the setting. Gamespy described the MP as "BC2 without all the vehicles" and I assume not nearly as much destructible terrain.
Maybe it's been mentioned around and I just missed it, but this is rather bizarre. More Bizarre than the whole Call of Duty: Infinity Ward/ Call of Duty: Treyarch thing. It's like that, only housed in one game.
This is just my review of the first half of the first campaign mission. I didn't bother playing past this because I was thoroughly disappointed of this BC2 clone.
1. driving atv's through a desert slowly does not somehow make them stealthy and quiet. if someone is driving an atv through a desert at night, i am going to hear them from MILES away.
2. how does epic beard man know where every enemy is when you require a sniper rifle and optics just to see their feet?
3. the thermal vision seems to think it is night vision, and every enemy is highlighted 100%. even their clothes. not just the parts giving off heat.
4. even with suppressors and silencers, in a desert town and night enemies who are a mere 30 ft away from your current firefight would hear that something was going on. especially since most of the enemies yell when they die. the others just stand there as if nothing happened.
5. I'm tired of games copying HL2 and never having the character you play talk. HL2 is a sci-fi game so it doesn't matter. this game is supposed to be realistic. what is realistic about having a group of yap happy soldiers with one who says absolutely nothing? are you playing a terminator? even MASTER CHIEF talked a little bit.
6. long range snipers can apparently ignore the laws of wind and gravity now.
7. also, apparently when you snipe someone who is miles away from you, you can hear their brains splatter as if they were right next to you with no sound delay...
8. oh yeah and once again they made the dumbest mistake of all fps campaigns. the npc's just stand there waiting for you to shoot them. why would terrorists just be standing out in the middle of their town at night holding guns and saying nothing? it's not like they are expecting an attack, that's for sure. noone prepares for an attack by standing around doing nothing in 3 man squads.
9. during a stealth mission, epic beard man is whispering since you are sneaking up on enemies, but when you ask him for ammo during that part, he practically yells at you "you don't need ammo! you need to shoot!". yeah cuz the terrorists totally wouldn't hear that because they're busy doing noisy things. oh wait no they aren't. they're just standing there.
10. you can apparently reload an smg in 1 second... riiiiiight
1. driving atv's through a desert slowly does not somehow make them stealthy and quiet. if someone is driving an atv through a desert at night, i am going to hear them from MILES away.
2. how does epic beard man know where every enemy is when you require a sniper rifle and optics just to see their feet?
3. the thermal vision seems to think it is night vision, and every enemy is highlighted 100%. even their clothes. not just the parts giving off heat.
4. even with suppressors and silencers, in a desert town and night enemies who are a mere 30 ft away from your current firefight would hear that something was going on. especially since most of the enemies yell when they die. the others just stand there as if nothing happened.
5. I'm tired of games copying HL2 and never having the character you play talk. HL2 is a sci-fi game so it doesn't matter. this game is supposed to be realistic. what is realistic about having a group of yap happy soldiers with one who says absolutely nothing? are you playing a terminator? even MASTER CHIEF talked a little bit.
6. long range snipers can apparently ignore the laws of wind and gravity now.
7. also, apparently when you snipe someone who is miles away from you, you can hear their brains splatter as if they were right next to you with no sound delay...
8. oh yeah and once again they made the dumbest mistake of all fps campaigns. the npc's just stand there waiting for you to shoot them. why would terrorists just be standing out in the middle of their town at night holding guns and saying nothing? it's not like they are expecting an attack, that's for sure. noone prepares for an attack by standing around doing nothing in 3 man squads.
9. during a stealth mission, epic beard man is whispering since you are sneaking up on enemies, but when you ask him for ammo during that part, he practically yells at you "you don't need ammo! you need to shoot!". yeah cuz the terrorists totally wouldn't hear that because they're busy doing noisy things. oh wait no they aren't. they're just standing there.
10. you can apparently reload an smg in 1 second... riiiiiight
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You forgot attacking from 5 meters high apache which is very safe and that mission where they had to mark few trucks. For sure OpFors won't figure out that something happen in their base after finding dead bodies everywhere
The beta MP map (desert one, in the closed beta) was horrible. Defenders spawning 5 meters from the objective? Retarded.
Can't say about the retail.
I didn't much like that map, or the game type either. However I did enjoy the snowy mountain map.
I am glad I did not give in to the hype as much as I wanted to. I have to give it to them, brilliant marketing campaign.
Instead I bought The Witcher for $20 bucks. W00t.
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Omar's rant is justified. I'm fine with games that are unrealistic, but what I don't like are the ones that are marketed as the most realistic experience ever (Operation Flashpoint 2 comes to mind). Especially if you have a commercial like this:
YouTube - Medal of Honor Commercial [HD]
YouTube - Medal of Honor Commercial [HD]
I think I'll be looking for a refund actually.
I purchased it on release day and haven't been able to play because it hasn't downloaded yet.
I checked again this morning and I'm getting the same message for the last 3 days. The steam servers are too busy to handle your request, try again in a few minutes. A few minutes has turned into days with no response from a support ticket yet.
I purchased it on release day and haven't been able to play because it hasn't downloaded yet.
I checked again this morning and I'm getting the same message for the last 3 days. The steam servers are too busy to handle your request, try again in a few minutes. A few minutes has turned into days with no response from a support ticket yet.
Just played the first, second and the beginning of the third mission of the SP campaign at a friends home.
This game is so bad that it passed the "so bad that it's already good again" phase by far.
I had to seriously lol at the second and third mission.
This game is so bad that it passed the "so bad that it's already good again" phase by far.
I had to seriously lol at the second and third mission.
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I see the general consensus everywhere, not just here, is that it sucks or is at least pretty disappointing. Yet it's been the top seller on Steam since release. Wtf is wrong with people?
Same reason films like Transformers are box office successes or the Da Vinci Code/Harry Potter books are best sellers.
Many people are swayed by advertising, some people will actually enjoy the game (could be labbled as having poor taste), some will buy it because their friends have it and some have enough money they'll still purchase it even though they know it's bad
Transformers was generally a really bad movie.
The Da Vinci Code and Harry Potter are actually pretty nice books to read.
There is a difference between being popular and being popular and crap.
The Da Vinci Code and Harry Potter are actually pretty nice books to read.
There is a difference between being popular and being popular and crap
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the problem is that many people do NOT THINK FOR THEMSELVES. they are sheeple (sheep people) who buy anything and everything that big time publishers throw at them simply because they made a trailer for it that makes it look badass.
they are brainwashed into thinking it's a good game essentially because it never occurs to them that maybe it might be a bad game.
how would MW2 be so successful without this marketing exploitation?
how would transformers 2 have been so successful if not for this?
all they needed to do was put in robots fighting, explosions, cool cars and megan fox into it and you have a carousel of pretty colors for people who are basically just babies but older. all they care about is spoon fed stimulation that doesn't require them to think at all.
and then there are the not-so mindless people who see everyone else doing something and think "well everyone else is doing it so it must be good"
wrong.
quantity =/= quality
popularity =/= good
just look at the success of CS:S and try to tell me that some people aren't just being fooled into thinking that some games are actually good.
be glad you are an independent thinker who doesn't let monopolizing corporations make decisions for you
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Marketing. And the fact we here, despite how much we like to think so, are not representative of the market. Otherwise TWI would be sickeningly rich.
Seriously, I think playing up the support of military consultants, the US army base thing, playable Taliban...they knew all the right parts to harp on, to convince the average gamer it was worth a look.
I've heard it's atmospheric, to a point, that's probably the best thing it has going for it. But it most other ways it's bland, to subpar, to downright bad.
Seriously, I think playing up the support of military consultants, the US army base thing, playable Taliban...they knew all the right parts to harp on, to convince the average gamer it was worth a look.
I've heard it's atmospheric, to a point, that's probably the best thing it has going for it. But it most other ways it's bland, to subpar, to downright bad.
The thing is, people buy the game because they see all the advertising... then they discover that the game sucks. But at this point, they can complain all they want... the company doesn't even care, they already got their money.
Should they worry about staining the name of the company with a bad game? no, because the people who buy game because of the advertising, usually don't care or even know about the companies making games.
They see the game and live the moment
Should they worry about staining the name of the company with a bad game? no, because the people who buy game because of the advertising, usually don't care or even know about the companies making games.
They see the game and live the moment
If you call wrong optics, wrong weapon models, ****ty gameplay, AH-1's flying 3m off the ground and so much more BS atmospheric, then yes it is.
Seriously, the main reason what makes the SP campaign suck so much is that it's a corridor shooter with re-spawning enemies often set in an rather open environment. That makes it's re-spawning corridor-shooter gameplay even more generic and stale.
This and the constant scripting bugs just make the game stale beyond believe. I had to restart a few different missions multiple times because a scripted event didn't play or got screwed by some AI collision.
The first large "firefight" (mission 5 or so) get's old after about 6-7 minutes. It lasts 15 and get's repeated a few times throughout the mission and later on as well. You say that they are not repetetive? You are right, sometimes the Zerg (uh Taliban) are advancing *gasp* uphill!
The game has so many timing flaws that it destroys any possible atmosphere during the "stealth" missions. Your buddies call out contacts around corners/walls/houses/continents before they can even see them. "TWO IN FRONT OF US" is usually being said by a guy behind you, a house, a camel, and a turn in the canyon who has no visual at all, spotting two guys around 3 more turns.
Gaah, even MW2's SP was better and probably more "realistic" than this pile of steaming crap. The fact that MoH tried to sell itself as "realistic" and "authentic" makes it even worse.
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EDIT:I just read through some reviews of the game and only could shake my head at those constant lines like "the game is very realistic" or "the game's blend of realism and action is perfect".
Did I miss the realism bit?
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+ some people don't want to think and do not have high requirements from games.
Friend of mine loves new SP and MP MoH. I asked him why, he told me he likes it cause game is easy, fun, maps are small and full of action. I told him, that weapons act wierd and doesn't have recoil. For him it's fine, cause he can kill other player easier...Also he likes AI and scripts from single player, those are fine cause he doesn't have to think too much where to go, what to do - game does everything for him... He also been playing in CoD 4, only ONE map, on same server all time. When I got bored after a week playing same small CoD maps over and over again, he enjoyed one map for years. And no, he isn't 12 yo, he's 32 now.
All MoH's BS are ok, cause they are "fun"...
and now whatever will be in new CoD people buy it, cause there is no other FPS around and game can't be as bad as MoH is.
/me looking @ TWI and hoping, that RO2 beta will be released before CoD :IS2: