map garbage collection error
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Garbage collection is the process of freeing up memory used by data that is no longer needed. So when a map changes, it makes sense that the game engine would need to throw all the data from the old map in the garbage so to speak.
You would not have to do anything so that garbage collection occurs. It would be part of the engine code, but it sounds like your map and all the others for that matter have something in them which crashes the game engine while its executing the clean up code.
I would suggest deleting things in your map that are not typically found in most maps. Unfortunately these will be the things that you worked hardest on and set your map apart
. It would be case of trial and error to find out what aspect of your map is crashing the server, and unfortunately you'll need a willing admin to test all your trial maps, unless you can host dedicated server yourself.
I think my explanation is supported by the fact that some of the fanciest maps such as Degeneration and Murphys maps have these problems.
I feel for you guys I really do. I would like to help. I have a server that doesn't get played on much so I would be willing to host maps for you guys with this problem. What I suggest is:
-Remove some advanced content/scripting from your map, remove the need for the map to rely on any additional files, make sure it still runs for you on a Listen server
-Host the map somewhere and PM me a link
-I can then test the map for you on my server, probably won't have 6 people playing on it but thats not the point is it?
If you have to sacrifice a nice little effect or something so that admins will actually host your map and people will play it, isn't that worth it?
You would not have to do anything so that garbage collection occurs. It would be part of the engine code, but it sounds like your map and all the others for that matter have something in them which crashes the game engine while its executing the clean up code.
I would suggest deleting things in your map that are not typically found in most maps. Unfortunately these will be the things that you worked hardest on and set your map apart
. It would be case of trial and error to find out what aspect of your map is crashing the server, and unfortunately you'll need a willing admin to test all your trial maps, unless you can host dedicated server yourself.I think my explanation is supported by the fact that some of the fanciest maps such as Degeneration and Murphys maps have these problems.
I feel for you guys I really do. I would like to help. I have a server that doesn't get played on much so I would be willing to host maps for you guys with this problem. What I suggest is:
-Remove some advanced content/scripting from your map, remove the need for the map to rely on any additional files, make sure it still runs for you on a Listen server
-Host the map somewhere and PM me a link
-I can then test the map for you on my server, probably won't have 6 people playing on it but thats not the point is it?
If you have to sacrifice a nice little effect or something so that admins will actually host your map and people will play it, isn't that worth it?
what would make certain servers sensitive to this and others not?
we've never had this happen on our servers, and theres nothing special about them.
we've never had this happen on our servers, and theres nothing special about them.
not sure but some people are having problems like this that do it on every server. Like Harbour for example.
That's just the thing: There is nothing advanced about my maps. No scripting or custom actors. Nothing. It's all done with smoke and mirror tricks and cheap work-arounds.
And they worked on a listen server just fine.
I think it's due to a damaged/broken actor that came with Killing Floor that some of the maps use and some don't. This actor then causes a problem during garbage collection. Why this makes some servers crash and not others, I have no idea. What this actor could be, I have no idea.
avp suggested it may be the random ammo pickups, which would make sense because only some people use those and others just use the boxes, so that would be an explanation as to why some maps work fine and others don't.
If someone wants to do some testing despite Christmas this would probably be a good direction to start with.
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You can and I have!
I read that too, that it's not possible, either on UDN or on unrealwiki but it's not true. Maybe for an older engine-build, I don't know.
If you download my map CTF-Wasnuni for UT2004 you can check out my cute spiders in the room with the jumppad on the broken piece of wall. They are two-frame animations of walking spiders which are shot across the floor.
It works in KF too, because I originally had animated cockroaches in KF-NorthSea but took them out when I shot for performance and found that the single-frame cockroaches looked almost as good.
EDIT: Just to add this: I'm fairly sure he just meant "animated" in the sense that the stuff is moving and not int the sense that animated textures or animated meshes are used.
I read that too, that it's not possible, either on UDN or on unrealwiki but it's not true. Maybe for an older engine-build, I don't know.
If you download my map CTF-Wasnuni for UT2004 you can check out my cute spiders in the room with the jumppad on the broken piece of wall. They are two-frame animations of walking spiders which are shot across the floor.
It works in KF too, because I originally had animated cockroaches in KF-NorthSea but took them out when I shot for performance and found that the single-frame cockroaches looked almost as good.
EDIT: Just to add this: I'm fairly sure he just meant "animated" in the sense that the stuff is moving and not int the sense that animated textures or animated meshes are used.
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We'll.... Then aren't all emitters animated in that sense?
Everytime I accidently use an animated texture on an emitter kfed crashes.
Everytime I accidently use an animated texture on an emitter kfed crashes.