MAKE Patriarch KILLABLE!

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Hyperion2010

FNG / Fresh Meat
Nov 22, 2005
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I killed him solo on normal with 5 crossbow bolts and a mag of a handcannon. I figure he has less HP in solo, but IDK. Aim for the head.
 

[DH]Chris89

FNG / Fresh Meat
Dec 4, 2006
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It is possible to kill him on Normal. i believe their were two off us at L3 Commando, 2 Support L2, and one support L1.

We were using Grenades, SA80, Deagles and Shotgun and we killed him quite quickly. The health bar you see when commando is very very usefull.

But then out of 4 times against him on normal only defeated him once. Oh and we did it on Westlondon.
 

PROpane

FNG / Fresh Meat
May 17, 2009
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Either you play horrible or me and my friend have bugged games.
Because on HARD we killed the Patriarch easily.
He's a Beserker with a Chainsaw and me A Support Specialist using Hunting Shotgun and double-barrel shots and I also agree that LAWs are the worst guns ever.
Using 2 grenades is three times better!
 

Neiko

FNG / Fresh Meat
May 17, 2009
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Texas
His hp scales with players, when he spawns, you can see his hp where yours should be (during his little cutscene of waking up). And it scales to be higher for more players. And I agree. LAW is useless in comparison to other things.
 

The Paper Child

FNG / Fresh Meat
May 13, 2009
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yea ive killed him,

yea ive killed him,

Ok so I've been playing the game on normal difficulty with 6 people we can easily get to the patriarch that's the easy part, now then we have the boss, the patriarch. My entire squad has LAWS and we empty our LAWS on him he suffers roughly 60 shots from the weapon, keeps cloaking and never dies, then he kills us eventually because we have no more LAW ammo. Is it possible to nerf the patriarch myself or am I forever doomed to have my entire squad raped over and over and over by an unkillable foe?
ive killed him before, you need hunting shout guns as well, but i really think they put every possible thing they could think of for it without making it invincible. i really think they should lower its health, lol when it spawns look at ur hp, it shows its hp, some times its 1600 other times its 1900, either way its way to hard, and its chaingun does way to much damage on normal, but i killed it on easy on solo... lol
 

Cato269

FNG / Fresh Meat
May 17, 2009
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I have killed the patriarch on normal in solo long mode.

I used a berserker for increased run speed and I finished all the waves with a machette and 9mm pistol. Whenever I had enough money for a LAW, I bought one. I spaced these LAWs around the map and on the final wave against the patriach, I would not have any other equipment but the standard equipment to have 1 slot weight.

Alright, now, whenever he cloaks, you run with your knife. You will be able to outrun his cloak length before he pummels you with melee and sometimes when he does get in melee range you are too fast for him to hit you. When he is at long range, pick up the closest LAW if he hasn't re-cloaked. Fire, drop the law, run. Repeat.
 

F6Knight

FNG / Fresh Meat
May 15, 2009
149
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Belgium
i just killed the Patriarch on a long normal solo game with a flamethrower and Firebug level 2.
after about half a can he went on his knees and when my first can was empty he ran away. I reloaded, healed up (1 self heal put me back at full), killed the clot wave with my dual hand cannon and waited for the Patriarch to charge me again.
halfway trough my can he died.

also, 1 full can kills a full health FP. you just need to start firing when its at least 10-15m away and it'll die right when it reaches you.

Firebugs eat everything for breakfast. Nice and crispy !

When I get firebug level 4 I'm going to try a solo long hard game
 

Colt .45 killer

Grizzled Veteran
May 19, 2006
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no, NO.. NO NO NO NO NO NO NO (etc)

I really like dieng to the patriarch, he is supposed to be hard ergo the minigun strapped to his arm. Ive killed him on manor, Wlondon and one or two other maps. every time the team goes all laws we loose ( go figure ), While i havent beent he most successfull in killin him i like a real challenge and thats what that final boss is, so please dont nerf him. ( I actually think he should also be scaled upon player level, all level 5's prepare for a fight, level 1 it should be easier then that but still around hwere it is now)
 

tha MediC

FNG / Fresh Meat
May 18, 2009
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Kill him before he heals. a level five medic or beserker to kite him, one flamer who taps it and then nukes him when he's kneeling, and a law. Did the trick for me on hard mode.
 

Methados

FNG / Fresh Meat
May 19, 2009
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He is really killeble the thing that is wrong thou is that he dont scale on the ammount of players ingame so if you try to solo him he is HARDER than with 6 ppl.

Yes he does, I killed him on hard on solo once, and in a game we had 70 players, and he killed us all, he gets stronger with the more humans in game.
 

SnakeDiver

FNG / Fresh Meat
May 14, 2009
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...we dont go to forum moan and complain, To the point to explain to you the players you have played with really suck!

Wow posts like this REALLY piss me off. Someone comes to the forums looking for help, and some 12 year old troll decides it'll be fun to call them "teh suck" because they did it, and the OP couldn't. Your post had useful information, wrapped in film of hate.

Anyways, I haven't been able to kill the patriarch myself on normal. Personally, if 6 team members have rocket launchers and all shoot him and all direct hit him.. he should have more than 5% gone from damage.

It might be that his health is fine, and it's doable on the right gun (I haven't done it yet, but others say they can, so I will eventually). The point here is 6x LAW does basically no damage. That gun is seriously screwed up.
 

ODelirium

FNG / Fresh Meat
May 19, 2009
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You could try to trap him into a room with the whole team and keep him from running out to heal while you unload everything on him, I find that this usually works.
 

F6Knight

FNG / Fresh Meat
May 15, 2009
149
14
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Belgium
just did some more patriarch killing on normal long.
We even got a kill on a 6 man patriarch (1900 hp) with only 5 because someone left the moment he spawned.

Just bring the rigth weapons. Don't go up against a patriarch with rifles and bullpups ...

Use crossbows, hunting shotguns and 1-2 firebugs to set him on fire and chase him when he runs to heal. The firebugs should use dual handcannons on him until he runs away.
 

Jaek

FNG / Fresh Meat
Apr 14, 2009
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Ok so I've been playing the game on normal difficulty with 6 people we can easily get to the patriarch that's the easy part, now then we have the boss, the patriarch. My entire squad has LAWS and we empty our LAWS on him he suffers roughly 60 shots from the weapon, keeps cloaking and never dies, then he kills us eventually because we have no more LAW ammo. Is it possible to nerf the patriarch myself or am I forever doomed to have my entire squad raped over and over and over by an unkillable foe?


I stopped using law because it's too precise (reminds me of a sniper rifle) and the splash is small. I recently switched to using the hunting on the patriarch and he can take a lot of hunting hits but I hit him much more than I did with the law.
 

F6Knight

FNG / Fresh Meat
May 15, 2009
149
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Belgium
on solo normal he dies with 3 alt fires from the hunting shotgun with my lvl 4 support perk active.
in a 6 player game he should die pretty fast against hunting shotguns if everyone had lvl 3+ support and they all charge in point blank before they fire.

just charge in, shoot, backpedal a little bit while you reload. this gives your teammates room to charge in and shoot.
I just set my server to hard because normal was getting too easy with everyone having lvl 2-3 perks (and getting better at the game off course ^^)
 

SmokeCheeba

FNG / Fresh Meat
May 15, 2009
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on solo normal he dies with 3 alt fires from the hunting shotgun with my lvl 4 support perk active.
in a 6 player game he should die pretty fast against hunting shotguns if everyone had lvl 3+ support and they all charge in point blank before they fire.

just charge in, shoot, backpedal a little bit while you reload. this gives your teammates room to charge in and shoot.
I just set my server to hard because normal was getting too easy with everyone having lvl 2-3 perks (and getting better at the game off course ^^)
Bingo, I beat him before his first heal with 5 other people earlier today on normal. I would've gotten the achievement if I didnt already get it on beginner. I know me and 1 other person had hunting shotties, but there had to be others, cause the Pat got stuck in between us and got raped.