Make markings with binocular take longer
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I did not mean that you could call arty without radios, i meant that you could pick cordinates form the map instead of the werid bincolar:IS2:
Yes, that's what I meant as well. But the current way of selecting coordinates should definitely stay as well.
If you could arti without spots I would almost demand a limitation on arti. A higher recharge time could do it as well.The only risk of arty should be that you waste it on a bad spot, just like IRLBtw, not saying that arty wouldn't benefit from limiting it in an other way (like only a certain number available per match round, etc).
Yeah I know what you meant. Sorry if it wasn't that clear. English ain't my first language.
I still don't agree with you guys. Ofc it would be more realistic but this is still a video game. Realism is a big part of the Red Orchestra franchise which is amazing but coop, teamplay and the ability to interact with eachother is a big part of making a succesful game.
I dont think sl or tl would bother to set coordinates if the tl can choose anywhere to arti if that's what you mean.
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It will only work if we get recon plane away from the game, if they do it be a double whammy.:IS2:
It would still be useful from time to time. For example, when looking through your binoculars, and you suddenly see a good arty target. It would be cumbersome to then have to open your map and click the position. So the existing spotting mechanism would be used...
Anyway, I understand you don't agree, so that's that then I guess
Okay well that's a whole new story then. If recon plane was taken away it would work. However I think a lot of players would be annoyed by that and frankly I don't see Tripwire being willing to do so after they've used time on it. Your idea would be way better without recon but still alot of my previous complains with that idea still goes.
I think my idea would be better
players still would prefer I think working for it then being lazy and passive by click the map on the radio.
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Why would you want to do that? Recon is one of the most important parts of any Army.
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Because no recon plane in ww2 told a platoon leader the exact position of every soldier in a enemy platoon.:IS2:
They would be able to spot high concentrations of enemy troops and roughly where they are. The fact they can identify every soldier should be a reason to change, not delete the recon system, no?
Recon planes did not spot enemy's in combat with blue's.:IS2:
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Of course the pilot cannot see people inside buildings or hiding in terrain or tell platoon leader live the exact positions of every damn soldier on the ground instantly, not to mention reporting each ones movement
Pilot can still see people pretty clearly from the 200? meters distance the recon plane repots them from.
Pilot can still see people pretty clearly from the 200? meters distance the recon plane repots them from.
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Of course the pilot cannot see people inside buildings or hiding in terrain or tell platoon leader live the exact positions of every damn soldier on the ground instantly, not to mention reporting each ones movement
Pilot can still see people pretty clearly from the 200? meters distance the recon plane repots them from.
Maybe he can give an approximate of enemy locations.:IS2:
Too bad we don't have trench binoculars in game similar to those :
http://images1.bonhams.com/image?sr...&right=0.737800&bottom=1.000000&dt=zoom_image
http://shard3.1stdibs.us.com/archivesD/upload/8767/179/8767_1267419403_1_edit.jpg
I often saw Japaneses officers using them in documentaries about ww2, saw them used a couple of times mounted on a tripod, but more often used as regular binoculars , holding them in hands.
Commanders only should have similar trench binoculars, officers the normal ones, in both RS and RO2
To OP : a +1 bonus point when you kill an officer aiming with binoculars will be a little but great bonus, i always feel like i saved many lifes when i shoot one guy using the binoculars, well at least temporary saved some guys
http://images1.bonhams.com/image?sr...&right=0.737800&bottom=1.000000&dt=zoom_image
http://shard3.1stdibs.us.com/archivesD/upload/8767/179/8767_1267419403_1_edit.jpg
I often saw Japaneses officers using them in documentaries about ww2, saw them used a couple of times mounted on a tripod, but more often used as regular binoculars , holding them in hands.
Commanders only should have similar trench binoculars, officers the normal ones, in both RS and RO2
To OP : a +1 bonus point when you kill an officer aiming with binoculars will be a little but great bonus, i always feel like i saved many lifes when i shoot one guy using the binoculars, well at least temporary saved some guys
Yeah I think some fixed artillery binocs next to the radio would be nice addition in some maps. I doubt we will never ever goign to see such things tho.
If I recall, the Devs specifically chose NOT to use the map to pick artillery points as it would results in commander's instantly calling artillery to the well known choke points on the map.
The current way, it imposes a delay, and a risk/cost for the team to place artillery. It may be unrealistic, but it's also unrealistic to know the land well enough from the enemy's perspective to know where the choke points will be. We know this because this is a game that we play on the same maps over and over.
If we wanted more realistic artillery, there should be much longer delays for any indirect fire calls - especially artillery. Mortars would really be on the only form of indirect fire a company commander should be able to utilize in any reasonable time. Waiting 15 minutes or so for an artillery strike would be more realistic, but not really work in this game. I don't think rockets or naval barrages are even remotely realistic for a commander at this level to call. Should we get rid of all that to make a more realistic game? Some people would say yes. Most probably would say no.
The current way, it imposes a delay, and a risk/cost for the team to place artillery. It may be unrealistic, but it's also unrealistic to know the land well enough from the enemy's perspective to know where the choke points will be. We know this because this is a game that we play on the same maps over and over.
If we wanted more realistic artillery, there should be much longer delays for any indirect fire calls - especially artillery. Mortars would really be on the only form of indirect fire a company commander should be able to utilize in any reasonable time. Waiting 15 minutes or so for an artillery strike would be more realistic, but not really work in this game. I don't think rockets or naval barrages are even remotely realistic for a commander at this level to call. Should we get rid of all that to make a more realistic game? Some people would say yes. Most probably would say no.
yea i could think of some well known places where you could take out most of the enemy team in the first 30 seconds. just outside the A cap on commissars house is a good one. just landing a rocket strike there, i believe i took out 20 Ivans in one strike. as i had 20 kills on the scoreboard after that.
The only bad thing currently is that artillery called on a cap point that is then taken by the enemy mid way through the barrage is cancelled. I don't mind the "combat area" spawn protection, but this is annoying. I dropped some mortars on the American side of A on Peleliu as they were capping it, and halfway through they manage to cap it somehow. Within 60 seconds they took C as well. Is it realistic to for the Artillery commader to say "oh, it looks like they took the houses, so we're going to have to stop killing them with shells there". No longer being able to call in arty after they have capped it (and not cancelling any arty that has already been called) could work.
EXACTLY. Who uses Binocs? When I see those people...I think "noob" and shoot them immediately.
I haven't used my binocs since I found out about F + RMB in 2011...