Make M4/M203 shoot brust

[RuneHarle]

The demo was never supposed to be a CQB perk, and given the massive damage that he can do at a distance the AR15+M203 combo makes him ridiculously OP. Imho if we have to have attachments what I would love to see is just cut the whole thing and replace it with a LAW with an underbarrel M203 or KAC Masterkey and a 2 shell tube magazine.

I was seriously hoping it was a masterkey when it was in the unreleased pictures where you only got an outline. However, I believe it to be quite balanced. The m4 isn't so much weak as it is just powerful enough to NOT overpower another weapon, and the launcher makes it effective at crowd clearing. The weapon by itself still can't handle the larger specimens quickly as the power on it isn't intended to kill everything.

I believe the weapon is balanced but I still think it should get commando bonuses.

3 round burst is overrated, it's more trouble than it is useful. If i was shooting a person 3 rounds will take them down, If I am shooting a crazed zed I prefer auto.

 

[greenlemonade]

The way I see it M4/M203 is a M72 with a rifle attached to it. Giving Demo an assault rifle while fun, shouldn't let him step into Commando territory. Sure it will partially step in there but the panicked "empty the whole damn clip until things stop moving" should be reserved to Commando. Sure Demo doesn't get all the damage and other benefits from perks, Demos should still be reminded that they are not really Commandos.

So the idea is keeping the full auto bug and turning it into a feature. Whenever a demo fires the rifle it shoots 3 rounds, like semi auto mode, click again to shoot again. Which should be enough to put down a crawler or a stalker in an emergency or take down distant targets.

+ Accuracy
+ Takes out nearby specimen quicker
+ Makes ammo management easier
- Players can't shoot for s*** will be facing 1/3 ammo, making them sad
- Requires more awareness and familarity with "sights" to pick targets
- Due to above can cause horrible ammo management
- Full Auto gives demos more courage to move up

It's an M4, not an M16. It does not fire in 3 round bursts.

 

[mbs357]

M4 does fire 3 round bursts.
M4A1 is full auto.

 

[KON_Air]

3 round burst is overrated, it's more trouble than it is useful. If i was shooting a person 3 rounds will take them down, If I am shooting a crazed zed I prefer auto.

That was the idea

 

[Zaqq]

M4 does fire 3 round bursts.
M4A1 is full auto.

Yeah, in real life both M16 and M4 fire bursts. And there is a funny fact that there is no M4 in any game. All games have M4A1.

 

[Splatpope]

Yeah, in real life both M16 and M4 fire bursts. And there is a funny fact that there is no M4 in any game. All games have M4A1.

Pretty much all FPS's, even "modern" ones, have the basic AKM/M4A1/Minimi combo since Counter Strike

Also, implement that suggestions, would make the M4 less of the **** it is now

 

[ImperialVersian]

I've had many gripes with the M4-203, it's the only new weapon I have a problem with.

I made a thread about it, but then it said I had to wait for a mod to give me clearance, and it ended up buried.

Anyways, here it is. I present a lot of ideas in order to make this gun more useful.

My main problem is that as OP says it's more of a commando gun than a Demo gun. As demolitions the grenade launcher should be your main thing and the assault rifle your backup. This gun has it the other way around, and bullets don't add to explosive damage you need to level up.

 

[McCrabby]

I've had many gripes with the M4-203, it's the only new weapon I have a problem with.

I made a thread about it, but then it said I had to wait for a mod to give me clearance, and it ended up buried.

Anyways, here it is. I present a lot of ideas in order to make this gun more useful.

My main problem is that as OP says it's more of a commando gun than a Demo gun. As demolitions the grenade launcher should be your main thing and the assault rifle your backup. This gun has it the other way around, and bullets don't add to explosive damage you need to level up.

I agree with what you said in that thread: the M4 203 isn't particularly attractive to anyone. I would rather buy a bullpup to kill crawlers and stalkers, and blow everything else up (like a demo should be doing anyways). As a commando, I may as well get an M79 and an M4.

As for the original post, I don't think burst fire will really help much. You're not really supposed to be spray and praying anyways. I do like Versian's idea of making it cheaper. The weapon is already properly nerfed in terms of stats imo, but making it so expensive is unnecessary. M4 203 was an awesome idea, but in actual gameplay it's kind of disappointing.