M7A3, no more need for medic-SCAR (or AK, or Bullpup)?

[Trotskygrad]

Comparing the M7A3 to the SCAR for the medic perk, not only is it cheaper than the SCAR, but it does more damage, has more rounds (and a better sight) and can heal. only thing worse is it's DPS due to the low rate of fire.

I'm curious what the logic was in adding the M7A3 since it allows the medic to have an on-perk weapon that totally outclasses a weapon that I would otherwise have picked up (or had another perk buy for me) in order to clean trash.

opinions?

 

[poosh]

MP5M have x1.5 faster syringe recharging rate that M7A3. So I don't see any reason to trader SCAR+MP5M for M7A3 in Commando's load-out (SCAR+MP5P+(AK47|M4|FNFAL).
But as Medic you can go with SCAR+MP5M+M7A3 instead of MP5M+LAR+(MP7M|Katana)+[Machete]. But I don't see any reason for Medic to hold the SCAR, because imo it's much better to trade it for MK23+(MP7M|Katana).

 

[Trotskygrad]

MP5M have x1.5 faster syringe recharging rate that M7A3. So I don't see any reason to trader SCAR+MP5M for M7A3 in Commando's load-out (SCAR+MP5P+(AK47|M4|FNFAL).
But as Medic you can go with SCAR+MP5M+M7A3 instead of MP5M+LAR+(MP7M|Katana)+[Machete]. But I don't see any reason for Medic to hold the SCAR, because imo it's much better to trade it for MK23+(MP7M|Katana).

well my point was that if I wanted a SCAR type weapon, I no longer have to buy the bullpup/AK/M4/SCAR

but I can just take one from within medic that performs much better.

I always run MP5M because I just love that gun, it's a matter of what my second/third gun is.

 

[Amber Glass]

uhhh the scar is a commando weapon, the m7a3 is a medic weapon...

i think you answered your own question

 

[Spicy]

Comparing the M7A3 to the SCAR for the medic perk, not only is it cheaper than the SCAR, but it does more damage, has more rounds (and a better sight) and can heal. only thing worse is it's DPS due to the low rate of fire.

I'm curious what the logic was in adding the M7A3 since it allows the medic to have an on-perk weapon that totally outclasses a weapon that I would otherwise have picked up (or had another perk buy for me) in order to clean trash.

opinions?

Remember that the Medic gets no damage bonuses to weapons. So while the SCAR and M7A3 might have the same base damage, give that SCAR to a Commando and see just how well you still "compete" when it comes to cleaning up trash. Accuracy at range seems a bit weird, but that could be the result of auto-bursting with the MP7/ MP5 on Clots and Gorefasts. *shrugs* Couple that with the faster dart recharge and in my opinion, the MP7 and MP5 still give a better overall performance. But it's nice to have options. Doesn't detract anything, but it certainly doesn't make the Medic a powerhouse like the old off-perk crossbow used to do.

 

[Trotskygrad]

Remember that the Medic gets no damage bonuses to weapons. So while the SCAR and M7A3 might have the same base damage, give that SCAR to a Commando and see just how well you still "compete" when it comes to cleaning up trash. Accuracy at range seems a bit weird, but that could be the result of auto-bursting with the MP7/ MP5 on Clots and Gorefasts. *shrugs* Couple that with the faster dart recharge and in my opinion, the MP7 and MP5 still give a better overall performance. But it's nice to have options. Doesn't detract anything, but it certainly doesn't make the Medic a powerhouse like the old off-perk crossbow used to do.

I'm talking about the medic using off-perk weapons like the SCAR is now rendered pointless.

though I guess not that many people did that

 

[Amber Glass]

well yes, why use an unperked weapon that costs in excess of 2000 dosh, when you can get a perked weapon that performs equally, or better? this holds true for all perks. i did use the scar offperk as medic before, and i continue too sometimes to free up a block of space in some of my loads

 

[Trotskygrad]

well yes, why use an unperked weapon that costs in excess of 2000 dosh, when you can get a perked weapon that performs equally, or better? this holds true for all perks. i did use the scar offperk as medic before, and i continue too sometimes to free up a block of space in some of my loads

well my point was that the medic, before this update, didn't have a perked weapon that performed at the SCAR's level.

 

[Amber Glass]

well now it does, is that so bad?

 

[Trotskygrad]

well now it does, is that so bad?

I'm not sure, that's why I made this thread

 

[Neom.1r]

But the M7 is utter trash, there much better weapons and loadouts for killing trash than this gun. If your worried about lack of medic dart you are playing medic incorrectly.

MP5, dual HC's, and a Katana is everything you need for trash, and its not your job to worry about anything bigger. Assuming a team situation, you can also aggro the sc/fp if the team has messed up, and crouch spamming katana shots at their chest/face, tanknig for your team to take it out. Remember, you got good cheap armour to tank for your team, don't be selfish and use it, but tell them you will do so so they don't leave you to die...

 

[Amber Glass]

But the M7 is utter trash, there much better weapons and loadouts for killing trash than this gun. If your worried about lack of medic dart you are playing medic incorrectly.

MP5, dual HC's, and a Katana is everything you need for trash, and its not your job to worry about anything bigger. Assuming a team situation, you can also aggro the sc/fp if the team has messed up, and crouch spamming katana shots at their chest/face, tanknig for your team to take it out. Remember, you got good cheap armour to tank for your team, don't be selfish and use it, but tell them you will do so so they don't leave you to die...

you've definitely never used the M7a3 much then, as it excels in clearing trash, M7a3, MP7, Magnum/Mk.23, and katana is a much better load for precision trash clearing from long to short range

 

[Neom.1r]

Interesting you would make such an assumption so confidently and ofcourse be totally wrong.

M7 is viable, but imo there are much better loadouts to spend that dosh/weight on. I suppose it's personal preference, and mine is to have a melee weapon and not an M7A3 as I can play betetr in all situations without it.

Not to mention the aesthetic is out of place for KF, but that has slowly eroded and not the point...