M38 vs. MN30/91 vs. M44

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Steve

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Jun 26, 2006
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I'm a fan of the bolt action rifles but I'm not sure which one to pick. I've read the descriptions in game, and this is what I see:

M38: Shorter, easier to handle, no bayonett, less accurate.
MN30/91: Standard rifle, attachable bayonett, best accuracy w/o bayo
M44: Affixed bayonett, less accurate

I like the idea of the M38, easier handling for less accuracy, but in game I don't notice a difference at all. The new M44 looks interesting, but why don't I just get a MN30 and attach the bayonett at spawn?

What do you guys think? Do you have any preferences? Does anyone notice the differences at all?
 

engineer

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Apr 7, 2006
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Steve said:
I'm a fan of the bolt action rifles but I'm not sure which one to pick. I've read the descriptions in game, and this is what I see:

M38: Shorter, easier to handle, no bayonett, less accurate.
MN30/91: Standard rifle, attachable bayonett, best accuracy w/o bayo
M44: Affixed bayonett, less accurate

I like the idea of the M38, easier handling for less accuracy, but in game I don't notice a difference at all. The new M44 looks interesting, but why don't I just get a MN30 and attach the bayonett at spawn?

What do you guys think? Do you have any preferences? Does anyone notice the differences at all?

Quicker snapshots, less length, lighter, ect.
 

Tobus

FNG / Fresh Meat
Apr 18, 2006
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Supposedly, the M38 and M44 have less bullet-drop over larger distances than the 30/91, although I haven't really noticed this yet. I don't see a quicker reload or other handling with the M38 and M44 compared to the 30/91. I tend to hit better with the 30/91, so I usually stick with that.

If say the reloading of the carbines would be quicker, I would go for these, especially on the maps where long range is less of an issue (Krasniy, StalingradKessel). On maps like Basovka, nothing beats my trusty MN30/91.
 

Skew

FNG / Fresh Meat
Mar 11, 2006
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I haven't noticed any accuracy differencies what-so-ever. I'm guessing these are really, really small marginals, so I guess it's just a question of which one you think is the coolest. :)
 

Centar

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Apr 2, 2006
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Use M44 in tight spaces: quicker to sight and unsight, has a bayonet, and the accuracy difference is small. Use the default rifle for long range combat where accuracy helps, and fix the bayonet when you're going to charge somewhere. The new M44 > M38 in all situations: both are intended for close quarters, but the M44 has a bayonet and I have not noticed any accuracy difference.
 

{Cap-Down}

FNG / Fresh Meat
Apr 17, 2006
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I use the m44 purely because i ALWAYS have my bayonet attachted and it saves time, you never know when the situation arises where you need to stab a pesky hun!
 

Skew

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Mar 11, 2006
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Centar said:
Use M44 in tight spaces: quicker to sight and unsight, has a bayonet, and the accuracy difference is small. Use the default rifle for long range combat where accuracy helps, and fix the bayonet when you're going to charge somewhere. The new M44 > M38 in all situations: both are intended for close quarters, but the M44 has a bayonet and I have not noticed any accuracy difference.

But not many maps have the M44!
 

Rameusb5

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Feb 23, 2006
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Personally, I have found the M38 to be less accurate than the 30. When you're trying to shoot a guy behind sandbags at 50 meters or more, you'll need the 30 to get the shot, in my experience.

The 44 and 38 do seem to bolt faster, but that may be my imagination. Personally, I'd take the 30 for most maps except the most confined ones. On the confined maps, i'd rather take an SMG or semi-auto. So the ONLY time I'll ever be taking the 38 or 44 is on a confined map where i'm late to join.
 

The Soup Nazi

FNG / Fresh Meat
Mar 10, 2006
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M91/30. Fix the bayonet and fire the gun like the real soldiers did. It doesn't pose of a problem, I can get shots whether the bayonet is on or not.
 

Comrade Wasabi

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Mar 12, 2006
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Personally, I think the bolting, aiming and reloading is a helluva lot faster for the carbines. I find it to be much quicker, and on most maps, the distances aren't great enough to require the 91/30's greater accuracy.

JM2C
 

K.Johansen

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Apr 14, 2006
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If you like to play realistically you should always attach bayonet on your 91/30 when you spawn in.

I prefer the carbines but sometimes I use the 91/30.
 

Steve

FNG / Fresh Meat
Jun 26, 2006
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Is the only difference between the M44 and the M38 the bayonett? No difference in accuracy or handling?
 

[5.SS]Strother

FNG / Fresh Meat
Mar 19, 2006
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Where did this bayonet effects accuracy myth come from? Anyway...I like the m44, it fits me like a frickin glove. I love the bayonet so I don't have to worry about hitting a button and accidently taking it off during a fight (that has happened to me before :( ). It is also a shorter and just as accurate as any other rifle in the game for the average shootout for this game. Now for the really long shots I would prefer mn30. It really depends on your style of play. If you like sitting back and taking the long shots and you don't like getting in to close quarter combat take the mn30. If you like to be able to get in close and be effective and also be able to hit those distance targets go with the m44, forget the m38 its completely outclassed.
 

The Soup Nazi

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Mar 10, 2006
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The only difference in accuracy between the M38 and the M44 would be is if the M44's bayonet WASN'T extended. If that were the case, the M44 would be shooting off a little to the left. However, that doesn't apply because its permenately extended.
 

Victor_Mdv

FNG / Fresh Meat
Apr 13, 2006
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I prefer carbines because they are more discreet.
Longer rifles make you look like a pole vaulting athlete :D
 

The Soup Nazi

FNG / Fresh Meat
Mar 10, 2006
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Yeah, but you can be like Vasili Zaitsev with that much accuracy (you do have to be able to nail a shot nonetheless though), especially on maps like snowyforest or kurland. :D
 

Avenger

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Mar 24, 2006
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I used to use the M38 carbine in the mod just because it had a cool sound. The regular MN90 just sounded like *BLAM* while the carbine had this neat *CRACKOWWWW* which made me giggle. Then one time I nailed the longest headshot I have ever hit on Danzig, and I've tended to use the M38 for long shots ever since, even though it's supposed to be less accurate.

In the new maps, nothing beats that M44. As far as I can tell, it's every bit as accurate as the MN90/30g, but it bolts faster and has a bayonet. How can you go wrong?
 

Tomcat_ha

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Nov 21, 2005
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I prefer the M44. I make just as many kills if not more as with the normal rifle because of better handling. I havent noticed the decreased accuracy.
 

kapulA

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Jan 4, 2006
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I prefer the 91/30 cause of the longer bayonet;its easier to kill prone targets with it...
 

Solo4114

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May 12, 2006
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The bolt action rifles in general are more accurate than the semi-autos. I've noticed this when using the G43 Sniper vs. the K98 Sniper. The K98 is simply more accurate and easier to handle, I find.

I suspect there is some difference in accuracy for the M38/M44 and the MN91/30. The 91/30 is probably more accurate over longer ranges (which would make sense) and probably suffers less from bullet drop or other deviation.

I suspect the m38/m44 are faster to move in free-look mode. They definitely shoulder faster. I'm not sure if their bolts cycle faster or if that's a function of shouldering.

On most maps, I'll take the M38 over the 91/30, unless I think I'll want a bayonet. If the M44's available I'll take that. I always attach my bayonet with the 91/30, though, and even with the K98. The bayonet doesn't affect accuracy of the WEAPON, per se, but you'll see yourself get tired a little faster and sway more with it attached.