Level 6 emblem
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Why does it have 1 star? I think it should just be yellow with no star. This makes me think there'll be higher levels in the future.
i kinda hope not, unless they are cooking up some really uber strong wave 8-9 specimen like a fleshpound that shoots out babies.
thats exactly the message you're supposed to getThis makes me think there'll be higher levels in the future.
its kinda obvious lol
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Ye, that's what i was thinking when i saw that when the update came out.
And since i heard there will be an harder difficulty after suicidal maybe that's something we will see, perks lvl 7 will be insane
I had a feeling it'd leave it open for future increases to the level too.
Taking it further is going too far, its all well and good if you've been playing for ages and are simply stepping up to the next level, but when you've just bought the game its going to be ridiculous.
Taking it further is going too far, its all well and good if you've been playing for ages and are simply stepping up to the next level, but when you've just bought the game its going to be ridiculous.
Ye, that's what i was thinking when i saw that when the update came out.
And since i heard there will be an harder difficulty after suicidal maybe that's something we will see, perks lvl 7 will be insane
No, DO change the current difficult, DO NOT change the name, or else we'll have "reincarnation" difficult after "suicidal".
Re: difficulty levels
Re: difficulty levels
I agree, Suicidal should stay suicidal. One really cool thing about KF is the difficulty levels have always been pretty much right on par with their namesakes. Another disadvantage of more difficulty levels is fewer players playing at each level, so fewer server results would turn up if you filter by difficulty. There's often just a handful of servers playing on Suicidal as it is. If an additional level of difficulty is decided upon, I would suggest "Masochistic"
Re: difficulty levels
I agree, Suicidal should stay suicidal. One really cool thing about KF is the difficulty levels have always been pretty much right on par with their namesakes. Another disadvantage of more difficulty levels is fewer players playing at each level, so fewer server results would turn up if you filter by difficulty. There's often just a handful of servers playing on Suicidal as it is. If an additional level of difficulty is decided upon, I would suggest "Masochistic"
I would suggest to bitshift the diffs so we get one really suicidal "suicidal". Hard becomes the old suicidal normal goes to hard and so on =] sounds like the best solution ever =D I like the name "Suicidal", but now it feels kinda silly, please give it back its hardcore feel =D like in the mod where suicidal Really were suicidal (impossible(by impossible i mean like noone's ever going to finish it) without using glitches, cheats or w/e). =D
Well there not going to stop at 6. The COD and WOW enthusiasts won't let them
Yeah... I still would have liked the game a lot more without levels. In the mod there were just classes and you just played one of them.
I agree, it's confusing.Why does it have 1 star? I think it should just be yellow with no star.
If nothing else, the free weekend showed that Perk ranks REALLY CAN make a difference. The Level 1s and 2s that joined Hard/Suicidal games had next to no chance even if they were GOOD!
It should be pretty obvious to everyone that TWI have made it look that way for future additional levels. Perhaps they are playing with the thought of continuing to level 10. Then you'll have a golden emblem with 5 stars(Level 10) instead of a red emblem with 5 stars(Level 5).
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That seems backwards because you are making a new difficulty. Also perk level discrepancies become even more pronounced with this. Rather the discrepancies should be decreased to balance the game. The goal oriented people might scream foul but otherwise you are going to need to make new difficulties every time the player becomes overpowered making low level perks terrible continually until the game effectively becomes an RPG with very little skill and a huge grind fest except for the people who started when retail was released.
I hope the final lv will have NO star. That makes it a stand-along league rather than a *upgrade* from the preceding lv.
Indeed, i've never completed a Suicidal Long game because public servers kept getting wasted on the 10th wave (pre-update). Since the update i've not had much luck finding a decent set of players either. But if you need to make a new difficulty because its become so easy due to perk/weapon power creep, then Suicidal will inevitably be easier. So as you say, it would effectively become an RPG.
Scaling alone doesn't make it an RPG. Every FPS with a difficulty setting has scaled attributes. Do you really think, after countless updates, and doing the math, TWI would still call it suicidal when it's as challenging to high level perks as normal?
I don't think so. If TWI wanted, they could make your Rank 6 awesomeness feel like Rank 0 on suicidal, today. Changing one integer could make clots soak an entire clip of AA12 rounds. They could move faster than you could type out a snappy reply. They could attack you at range with melee and kill a fully armored berzerker in one hit.
I find it really hard to believe that you only lose on suicidal because of other people Evilsod. I'm not attacking your skill...but all your exaggerated statements about the difficulty of suicidal are hard to swallow. Fact is, as you like to say frequently, people die A LOT and the game seems pretty damn hard for many, even before suicidal.
When the time comes, if need be, suicidal can be rescaled. Ranks vs difficulty used to look like this:
Rank 0: Beginner.
Rank 1-2: Normal.
Rank 3-4: Hard.
Rank 5: Suicidal.
Now, it looks like this:
Rank 0: Beginner.
Rank 1-2: Normal.
Rank 3-4: Hard.
Rank 5-6: Suicidal.
If we keep seeing the rise in weapon power of the last update, then yes, a difficulty tweak will be necessary. If we keep getting new weapons with every perk level, and they go all the way to 10, revising specimen HP along the way, it could look like this:
Rank 0: Beginner
Rank 1-4: Normal
Rank 5-8: Hard
Rank 9-10: Suicidal.
Or who knows? Maybe this is the relative peak of power that TWI will go to. Maybe from here on out, new weapons will vary in style and other aspects, but won't edge up damage very much. Same thing with perk bonuses.
Point is, there are a ton of unknowns in how this can play out. Scaled stats according to difficulty could be tweaked, guns may not get significantly more powerful in later updates, existing weapons could be rescaled, new specimen might get introduced, the make up of entire waves at different difficulty levels could be altered, and from the top down the game could be rescaled to accommodate higher level perks and weapons.
I don't think so. If TWI wanted, they could make your Rank 6 awesomeness feel like Rank 0 on suicidal, today. Changing one integer could make clots soak an entire clip of AA12 rounds. They could move faster than you could type out a snappy reply. They could attack you at range with melee and kill a fully armored berzerker in one hit.
I find it really hard to believe that you only lose on suicidal because of other people Evilsod. I'm not attacking your skill...but all your exaggerated statements about the difficulty of suicidal are hard to swallow. Fact is, as you like to say frequently, people die A LOT and the game seems pretty damn hard for many, even before suicidal.
When the time comes, if need be, suicidal can be rescaled. Ranks vs difficulty used to look like this:
Rank 0: Beginner.
Rank 1-2: Normal.
Rank 3-4: Hard.
Rank 5: Suicidal.
Now, it looks like this:
Rank 0: Beginner.
Rank 1-2: Normal.
Rank 3-4: Hard.
Rank 5-6: Suicidal.
If we keep seeing the rise in weapon power of the last update, then yes, a difficulty tweak will be necessary. If we keep getting new weapons with every perk level, and they go all the way to 10, revising specimen HP along the way, it could look like this:
Rank 0: Beginner
Rank 1-4: Normal
Rank 5-8: Hard
Rank 9-10: Suicidal.
Or who knows? Maybe this is the relative peak of power that TWI will go to. Maybe from here on out, new weapons will vary in style and other aspects, but won't edge up damage very much. Same thing with perk bonuses.
Point is, there are a ton of unknowns in how this can play out. Scaled stats according to difficulty could be tweaked, guns may not get significantly more powerful in later updates, existing weapons could be rescaled, new specimen might get introduced, the make up of entire waves at different difficulty levels could be altered, and from the top down the game could be rescaled to accommodate higher level perks and weapons.