Ignoring the inflamatory description, it's still more than anything a Leopard, Leclerc, or other tank has experienced. I don't think this is the kind of argument you want to make.Reddog said:Explain to me how the M1A1 Abrams is proven in combat?
Fighting assholes with rags wrapped around their heads and 30 year old RPG's or demoralized and poorly trained Iraqi soldiers in barely running 20 year old tanks is nothing.
I'm talking serious tank on tank fighting against a capable enemy.
The last tanks that experienced "serious tank on tank" fighting were:
Centurions
M60's
M48's
Upgraded Shermans
T62's
T55's
T54's
Still, this doesn't alter the fact that the Abrams, Challenger, and Merkava have been used for extended periods of time in battlefield conditions. If nothing else, I have evidence of how, say, a Challenger will perform in desert conditions. I have no such information about a Leopard.
I'm saying nothing about the relative quality of a Leopard vs an Abrams, since I don't know anything about them, but you can't just discount the experience of the Abrams, Challenger, et al. The Soviets had little experience with desert fighting and it showed in their tanks during the middle east wars.
For interests sake, does any other MBT feature something similar to the electronic Embedded Battle Command in the Abrams?
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