uhhmmm... isnt that in CoD? and is RO CoD? No. That seems more like a movie scene than a segment of an assault. What would cause you and your enemy to be weaponless?
Aren't guns in CoD? And is RO CoD?
Knives/Spades/Melee Weapons for Everyone
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Aren't guns in CoD? And is RO CoD?
However the 31 9mm rounds traveling at high speed toward your enemies arteries are much more likely to kill the enemy, while a hard-to-place (in ROOST) melee hit isn't even likely to kill the enemy in one blow.
Still think the concussion should be implemented when hitting the enemy with full force
However the 31 9mm rounds traveling at high speed toward your enemies arteries are much more likely to kill the enemy, while a hard-to-place (in ROOST) melee hit isn't even likely to kill the enemy in one blow.
Still think the concussion should be implemented when hitting the enemy with full force
Of course, your MP40 isn't worth anything if you walk through a door and get clotheslined in the neck with the butt of a 91/30. And really that's what I want, more elaborate and more powerful hand to hand fighting that feels less like trying to prick a moving balloon and more like desperate hand-to-hand grappling.
We need to get the "good ol'e kick in the butt " back in a game (Wolfenstein???) preferably RO:HOS
Would be great for weapons which don't have a bayonet and not suitable to hit with (MP40 for instance).
Kick someone in the right spot and he should/could end up stunned for a while.
Would be great for weapons which don't have a bayonet and not suitable to hit with (MP40 for instance).
Kick someone in the right spot and he should/could end up stunned for a while.
if i were going into combat why would i carry a shovel in with me?
Because the shovel was standard issue!
Because the shovel was standard issue!
Because digging a foxhole with a dagger is kind of hard
I think that's what most of us wanted, the games instead went into lunge-gibbing melee and big dramatic animations
Because digging a foxhole with a dagger is kind of hard
Using entrenching tools instead of knives was common practice among wars as they were more versatile and packed a heavier punch due to their sheer weight force behind them, in fact the (then) Soviet spetsnaz had a specialized shovel which was designed to be lightweight and extremely deadly, they were so balanced that they could be thrown with deadly effects I'll see if I can find where I found this sometime.
Chinese are the best when talking about shovels (sponsored by MacGyver !)
YouTube - Chinese Military Shovel WJQ-308 (HQ + Full length)
YouTube - Chinese Military Shovel WJQ-308 (HQ + Full length)
The battle of Stalingrad was notorious for the amount of hand-to-hand combat that took place, would be a shame if it didn't get represented.
Maybe we'll see a new game-mode post release where both sides have a very limited amount of ammo and players are often forced into melee fights.
Maybe we'll see a new game-mode post release where both sides have a very limited amount of ammo and players are often forced into melee fights.
Or you generally accept that your dead when your ammo runs dry...
There is always someone with a bullet when you haven't got one. It might even be a Murphy's law
It was also notorious for starvation, hypothermia, and lots of other unpleasant things, but that doesen't mean i'd want them modelled in the game.
And melee weapons, honestly, i've never used them, not even once in shooters that lets you bash someone with your main weapon, it just doesen't seem effecient to switch weapon when the weapon you're allready holding can do the job.
So to me, it seems a big waste of time, i'd much rather have them spend that time making more guns than shovels, lord knows we could use a PPD-40, early PPSh variants, the M38 Carbine, P.08, MG-42, maybe even the PTRD, a Mosin with hex reciver and a Kar with no sight hood as options, thease are all things which haven't been confirmed, that i'd much rather see than a shovel and a knife.
Why not though? The big emphasis on hand-to-hand combat in close quarters greatly affected the general style in which the Battle of Stalingrad was fought, it's like saying that you don't want the whole "trench warfare" aspect affecting a historically accurate WW1 game.
Not really, you just said you personally don't use them and that you don't want to see TWI putting effort into them.
No, i explained that i personally do not use them, because they are not very usefull. And if something is not very usefull, then development time is probably better spent on things that are.
Honestly now, how many of you would bother putting away your rifle/SMG to smack someone with a spade instead of the butt of your gun? What possible use would that serve for you other than costing you precious time?
And would it even add anything significant to the gameplay experiance, that would be important enough to not be making an MG-42 or M-38 Carbine instead? A spade is going to be more important to the game than thouse guns and others?
Hell i'd sooner have them remodel that AVT-40 into an AVS-36 than have them make a spade, an AVS would be a significant improvement for the game, a spade will not be since we allready have a melee function.
Hit me up again when the game has a few content updates under it's belt, and is nolonger missing more important gear, then we can talk about adding spades and knives.
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To repeat what I said in my first post, I think a melee system using butts of rifles and attachable bayonets are the best option. I have yet to see a shooter that has knife/melee weapon systems that don't look totally retarded.
At least when I see people fighting with bayonets in RO1 it looks decent without them running around swinging knives through the air. Although watching two people try to smack eachother with rifle butts DOES look really stupid in RO1, and hopefully RO2 has some majorly upgraded animations.
At least when I see people fighting with bayonets in RO1 it looks decent without them running around swinging knives through the air. Although watching two people try to smack eachother with rifle butts DOES look really stupid in RO1, and hopefully RO2 has some majorly upgraded animations.
I dont care as long as I can use my spade to make a fox hole and pick you two off while fighting each other from a hill full of tree's where you cant ever find me.