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Killing floor potentially unstable

Serfox

FNG / Fresh Meat
May 20, 2010
5
0
0
From the Steam user forums:

Okay you may think I am over-exaggerating here but I'm not. My heart is still literally pounding. I decided to boot up Killing Floor and play some, and I get into the Bioticslab map, and I've noticed a glitch with some of the textures being loaded incorrectly and graphical glitches, tearing and all sorts of funky stuff.

Then my Macbook Pro all-out bricks. Screen flashes white for a millisecond (Which is what you see if you hard reset it) but remains on, screen dead. I hard reset it, wait a few seconds and turn it back on. Fails to boot. I thought it was dead.

Next step for me in these situations is a battery pull+SMC reset. Thankfully this worked, and I managed to get back into the computer and the screen appears to be fine. Will be running a couple of OpenGL games in a few to see if the GFX chipset is still alright.


Upon re-entering the OS, this is the error log I got (Sent to Apple):

Code:
Interval Since Last Panic Report:  4243320 sec
Panics Since Last Report:          1
Anonymous UUID:                    FFF54435-585F-4E6A-9F90-DCC06416C892

Thu May 20 23:20:29 2010
panic(cpu 0 caller 0x00C9A6A4): NVRM[0]: Read Error 0x00009410: BAR0 0xd4000000 0x62b7d000 0x096380c1 D0 P3/4
Backtrace (CPU 0), Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack)
0x56f8e4c8 : 0x12b4c6 (0x45f91c 0x56f8e4fc 0x13355c 0x0) 
0x56f8e518 : 0xc9a6a4 (0xecae80 0xecae80 0xe8f6d4 0x0) 
0x56f8e578 : 0xf53df0 (0x7c6c404 0x7981004 0x9410 0xcd6d06) 
0x56f8e5b8 : 0xf7e57d (0x7981004 0x9410 0x5c00 0x9) 
0x56f8e5f8 : 0xd9c14f (0x7981004 0x6fb0004 0x0 0x0) 
0x56f8e618 : 0xcdc3f1 (0x6fb0004 0x56f8e6a4 0x0 0x0) 
0x56f8e658 : 0xeefdb8 (0x7981004 0x3d0900 0x56f8e6a4 0x0) 
0x56f8e6d8 : 0xf26420 (0x7981004 0x7cc6004 0x3 0x3) 
0x56f8e798 : 0xce6736 (0x7981004 0x7ccac04 0x0 0xf7ad004) 
0x56f8e818 : 0xca7c49 (0xc1d0004f 0xbeef0003 0xcafec76a 0x10da8480) 
0x56f8e858 : 0xc98804 (0x56f8e9e8 0x6 0x0 0x0) 
0x56f8e9b8 : 0xc8a36c (0x0 0x600d600d 0x7058 0x56f8e9e8) 
0x56f8ea78 : 0x1187917 (0xc1d0004f 0xbeef0003 0xcafec76a 0x10da8480) 
0x56f8eab8 : 0x1187aee (0x42d6c000 0x10da8480 0x90dfe000 0x0) 
0x56f8eaf8 : 0x11a76df (0x42d6c000 0xdeea000 0x56f8eb34 0x0) 
0x56f8eb28 : 0x4425e5 (0x4308f000 0x56f8ed9c 0x56f8ec54 0x0) 
	Backtrace continues...
      Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
         com.apple.GeForce(5.4.8)@0x1134000->0x11cbfff
            dependency: com.apple.NVDAResman(5.4.8)@0xc81000
            dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(1.7.3)@0xc73000
            dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.6)@0x601000
            dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(1.7.3)@0x78e000
         com.apple.nvidia.nv50hal(5.4.8)@0xee0000->0x1133fff
            dependency: com.apple.NVDAResman(5.4.8)@0xc81000
         com.apple.NVDAResman(5.4.8)@0xc81000->0xedffff
            dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(1.7.3)@0xc73000
            dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.6)@0x601000
            dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(1.7.3)@0x78e000

BSD process name corresponding to current thread: Killing Floor

Mac OS version:
9L31a

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 9.8.0: Wed Jul 15 16:55:01 PDT 2009; root:xnu-1228.15.4~1/RELEASE_I386
System model name: MacBookPro5,1 (Mac-F42D86C8)

System uptime in nanoseconds: 83823383288907
unloaded kexts:
com.apple.driver.InternalModemSupport	2.4.0 - last unloaded 104774519806
loaded kexts:
com.Logitech.Control Center.HID Driver	3.1.0
com.paceap.kext.pacesupport.leopard	5.7
com.Cycling74.driver.Soundflower	1.5.1
com.manycamllc.driver.ManyCamDriver	0.0.9
com.apple.filesystems.cddafs	2.3.0 - last loaded 66746384138487
com.apple.driver.AppleHWSensor	1.9d0
com.apple.filesystems.autofs	2.0.2
com.apple.driver.IOBluetoothBNEPDriver	2.1.9f10
com.apple.driver.AppleUpstreamUserClient	2.7.5
com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyHIDDriver	
This seems to indicate a rather hefty kernel panic/crash.

Needless to say I am not opening Killing Floor ever again until this is fully looked into. I trust the Tripwire guys to take this seriously, as this could be potentially fatal to someone's system if I had to do an SMC reset to get this up and running again.
 

Yoshiro

In Soviet Russia, Yoshiro is a cake
Staff member
Oct 10, 2005
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I'll forward this to our mac guy right away.

Can you post your killingfloor.log file for us please?

It is located in your user/library/application support/killingfloor/system folder.
 

Serfox

FNG / Fresh Meat
May 20, 2010
5
0
0
I've attached it. Hope it helps you find out what happened.

I'm going to go play a nice gentle, calm game now...
 

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/linuX/gitano

FNG / Fresh Meat
Nov 22, 2005
316
3
0
germany
Hey SerFox,

from the steamforums as well:

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 9.8.0: Wed Jul 15 16:55:01 PDT 2009; root:xnu-1228.15.4~1/RELEASE_I386
System model name: MacBookPro5,1 (Mac-F42D86C8)
So, i bet You're running 10.5.x on Your MacbookPro5,1? Heard quite some issues from Leopard users with this game now, maybe this is related.

Other than that, i can only think of some hardware issue, especially overheating. Do the fans spin up/ whats the temps on your hardware (GPU/CPU/HDD) when running the game?

greetz,
gitano
 

Serfox

FNG / Fresh Meat
May 20, 2010
5
0
0
Yes I'm running 10.5.8

Fans span up a bit, but I also run a cooling fan pad underneath, and I've ran more intensive games over emulation/bootcamp without issue. I also ran KF on my Windows partition absolutely fine.

And I'm sorry but unless you guys promise to buy me a new computer if this one burns out, I'm not launching Killing Floor until this is resolved, and I have no other way of finding out the temp info.
 

Zetsumei

FNG / Fresh Meat
Nov 22, 2005
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Falmouth UK
It sounds a lot like overheating. Can you go in bigger detail about the graphical issues you saw?.

Did you see checkerboards, or vertex corruption (sort of stripes pulled out on the screen). Or perhaps individually differently colored pixels.

Or was it more like some textures (shaders) missing?
 

/linuX/gitano

FNG / Fresh Meat
Nov 22, 2005
316
3
0
germany
Hey,

Man, i can feel with You... this does really suck.

Could You probably convince Yourself (after that strong drink You suggested :)) to start KF in windowed mode and then post the log?

You can edit the KillingFloor.ini (located in ~/Library/Application Support/Killing Floor/System/) to do so:

Code:
[SDLDrv.SDLClient]
WindowedViewportX=800
WindowedViewportY=600
FullscreenViewportX=1440
FullscreenViewportY=900
MenuViewportX=640
MenuViewportY=480
Brightness=1.000000
Contrast=0.700000
Gamma=1.100000
UseJoystick=False
JoystickNumber=0
IgnoreHat=False
JoystickHatNumber=0
CaptureMouse=True
StartupFullscreen=[COLOR="Red"]False[/COLOR]
greetz,
gitano
 

Serfox

FNG / Fresh Meat
May 20, 2010
5
0
0
It sounds a lot like overheating. Can you go in bigger detail about the graphical issues you saw?.

Did you see checkerboards, or vertex corruption (sort of stripes pulled out on the screen). Or perhaps individually differently colored pixels.

Or was it more like some textures (shaders) missing?
I have done some research, and the Biotics Lab glitch is well known, I didn't know that was a documented bug. So basically, I saw the broken floor of BioticsLab while waiting to join, then my screen went off, not black, off.

/linux/gitano said:
Could You probably convince Yourself (after that strong drink You suggested ) to start KF in windowed mode and then post the log?
I really really can't. I'd really love to help you guys, but I need this laptop for University, I'm about to graduate and I've a bunch of stuff on here I need to use, as well as a contract to fulfill for a video game soundtrack (My job...)

I'm basically too frightened. Call me a wuss if you want, but this machine cost me a lot of money which I cannot afford to replace.
 
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Yoshiro

In Soviet Russia, Yoshiro is a cake
Staff member
Oct 10, 2005
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Our mac guy looked at the issue and this is what he said

"If it's a kernel panic, it's not our fault (this is the equivalent of a Blue Screen of Death on Windows)...we can crash, but if we crash the whole system, it's not our bug. Especially if it was so traumatic that the system wouldn't boot afterwards.

It sort of sounds like he might have gotten a MacBook with one of the defective ("bad bumps") Nvidia chips in it. That's the model that allegedly had them (first generation of the "unibody" macbook pros: model id "MacBook5,1"). If the chip was overheating, I wouldn't be surprised if it refused to boot for a few minutes afterwards.

It also might just be bad luck; that's the exact model I did the Killing Floor port on, though. "