Killing Floor 2 : Join the Autumn Update 2022 Beta 1!

[efectivo]

Excellent work, please where can I read how to update my own server to this version?

 

[Nac]

I wonder how soloeable the new weekly will be...

 

[OnionBubs]

I can write better stuff later but here's my current thoughts. Assume HoE, 6 players, lv 25:

• G36C:
  • The recoil on this gun alone makes it feel awful beyond 2-3 shot bursts. I thought the FAMAS had some ugly vertical recoil, but this thing literally draws serpentine patterns going upward.
  • Its main draw--bonus damage against armored enemies--isn't really that helpful in the grand scheme of things.
    • Rioters lose their helmets on the first headshot but still take 3 more headshots to kill after that...or you could just shoot them in the legs with 5 Kriss bullets for an easier kill. So that's not exactly ideal.
    • EDARs seem to be the main draw here, as the chest armor breaks in one shot, with one followup shot in the vulnerable spot needed to confirm a kill. Contrast with Kriss needing 2 shots to break, 2 more to kill.
    • Technically it can 1-mag a FP, but good luck with that because recoil
    • It kinda helps with Matty, I guess, but doesn't make SWAT worth taking on a standard boss wave over other options
  • AR damage hits just hard enough to 1-tap stalkers with a bodyshot and 1-tap Gorefasts with one headshot, which is good
  • All in all: AP ammo is a gimmick, otherwise more-or-less a sidegrade to the Kriss I guess, but the awful recoil is
• HRG Dragonblaze:
  • Primary fire shoots a better version of the Scorcher's fire trail; a number of pellets in vertical alignment that can penetrate smaller trash and still lay full-strength Ground Fires
    • Kills hallways easy-peasy
  • Alt-fire shoots the pellets in a perfectly horizontal spread
    • Mostly not that noteworthy on their own accord; the farther away the target area is, the better, otherwise the pellets won't spread enough to justify taking the shot
  • Extremely low max ammo count (52 total shells) sort of limits your ability to freely spam...
  • ...EXCEPT in Zed-Time, where the gun's insanely fast fire rate means it shoots faster than pretty much everything but the Spitfires and can output more shots and more fire cover than any other Firebug weapon with Pyromaniac in just 3-6 standard seconds. With 18-21 seconds that a good Commando can provide...yeah.
  • Still bad against large Zeds without Pyromaniac.
• HRG Locust:
  • Ugh.
  • Uggggggghhhhhh.
  • Shoots missiles that explode at all ranges (no dud impact usage).
  • The explosions release a blast that inflicts poison, bleed DoT, causes panic, and inflicts knockdown (not stun, full knockdown) on anything they don't kill.
  • Kills trash below Gorefiends/Rioters with one blast.
  • For when you want to grief a Sharpshooter out of a lane.

 

[Eradan]

So we're supposed to give feedback on the Blood Sickle and the G36C, but can't buy them at trader. What's the point?

 

[small fella]

Im experiencing a rather unforgivable, intolerable issue in the new beta.
Its probably the same thing that the youtube creator Pathfinder encountered. Essentially, my mouse sens got EFFIN FRICKED. I immediately quit the beta, not wishing to go through the trouble of testing, assuming that you can just watch his latest video and will be bombarded with similar complaints anyways. What i did notice for sure, both with aiming in 3D AND with my mouse in the ESC menu (but im pretty sure not the main menu), is that horizontal sens became much higher and vertical sens - considerably lower.
I get that this is beta, so PLEASE do solve the issue before official release, thank you.
Its also noteworthy that in the base game, seemingly either EVERY time i pick up a weapon that SPAWNED on the floor OR only the FIRST time i do so in a match, the mouse sensitivity momentarily drops to super-slow before returning back to normal. Something in your game clearly fricks up mouse sens - a quick google search reveals several related complaints from other users.

 

[simplecat]

HRG Blast Brawlers parry window change from 0.38s to 0.26s is more of a nerf than buff - the shorter it is the more likely you'll block instead of parrying.
HRG Locust's explosive damage type inherits some Stumble and Knockdown power from its parent class (KFDT_Explosive) which might not be intended, not sure.
HRG Locust's cloud does "explosive" damage which does not really make sense, though helps vs Fleshpounds, i think it should be changed to Bleeding to be neutral vs all ZEDs, Scrakes especially.
Feels like HRG Dragonsblaze fire modes should be swapped.

 

[Migunne]

So we're supposed to give feedback on the Blood Sickle and the G36C, but can't buy them at trader. What's the point?

Pardon me ? Did u buy the whole pack of Season 2022 (Game Pass) ?



SOmeone noticed about acceleration mouse plus X Y values on Beta 1 ?

 

[Eradan]

Pardon me ? Did u buy the whole pack of Season 2022 (Game Pass) ?

What's the point of a beta if only the buyers of the DLC can test the weapons? That only reduce an already very small number of testers.

 

[Nac]

I read in Steam that people have a lot of problems with the mouse going too fast with the beta.

I'm mainly a PS4 player but I can run the game on my laptop. However the performance isn't too good with my computer which is why I usually stay on the former.

Anyway, I opted into the beta this time. From the start I noticed the mouse really was turning too fast with the slightest movements.

I usually play by alternating between controller and Mouse/Keyboard on PC on the fly depending on the situation and what's more comfortable. (I'm more used to controller since the PS4 is my main machine for playing KF2.)

When I noticed that the fast mouse problem was happening, I set all my mouse sensitivity settings nearly to the left side. When I began the match, I used the controller first and it seemed fine. Then I switched to mouse/keyboard for a time and back to controller. I noticed when I switched back, the controller was turning too slowly as if my mouse settings were affecting the controller. It didn't used to before. The controller and the mouse settings are supposed to be separate but in the beta's case, switching between both seems to confuse the settings for one or the other.

Anyway, those are my impressions.

 

[Aleflippy]

What's the point of a beta if only the buyers of the DLC can test the weapons? That only reduce an already very small number of testers.

You can use the console in solo play to spawn the desired weapon in your hands ! I did that for most of Season Pass 1, in order to know what would be worth buying. Although I ended up buying the passes once they got released... It's much more interesting money-wise.

You can find the things you should write in your console within each DLC weapons article on the KF2 wiki : https://wiki.killingfloor2.com/index.php?title=Frost_Fang

For example :

• EnableCheats
  • GiveWeapon KFGameContent.KFWeap_Rifle_FrostShotgunAxe

Be mindful that the gun will spawn DIRECTLY in your hands. So it might make the first few waves ridiculously easy. You'll be able to buy more ammo and upgrade it as soon as the wave ends though ! If you sell the weapon, you'll have to use the console again.

 

[SigmaWolfist]

Buff berserker

 

[Aleflippy]

Okay, I haven't tried everything yet, so I'll edit my post in the coming few days :


G36C : the weapon itself seems pretty alright. More than decent damage, ROF, and mag size. Haven't compared it directly to the Kriss Vector, but it seems to do the job just as well. However, I do have to say that the armor-piercing rounds are almost... too good? As in, they totally nullify the main defenses of sirens, EDARs and Rioters... I get that it was the main deal behind it, but I don't find it reasonable. It favors a lazy kind of playstyle. Also, what the hell is that accuracy? It's a goddamn LASER, even while firing from the hip ! I really like the old-school laser beam, but holy **** : scoring headshots has never been so easy. Which makes the effectiveness of the AP rounds even more baffling.

Blood Sickle : I would have wished for more differences between the two modes, but the weapon isn't too bad ! It reminds me of a cheaper, slightly faster and weaker Battle Axe. Don't know if it would replace any of the great weapons the zerk has already (namely the Bone Crusher, Eviscerator and Pulverizer), but it's serviceable enough. However, the animations are laughably BAD. I never commented on how the level of detail might have dropped since Saber took the reins. But here, it's just too big to ignore.

Barmwich : It is indeed the map I've played so many years ago ! But outside the nostalgia, I have to admit I'm not hugely fond of it. The atmosphere is pretty darn cool, as with most Halloween maps, but the layout is less so. I guess it makes for a more challenging map though, with everything being kinda cramped. I haven't opened the weapons vault yet, although I got the idea in my second playthrough (just can't find the last piece of the puzzle...) Speaking of which : would it be possible to come up with puzzles that doesn't require you to find pieces? Honestly, having some platforming, killing a specific zed in a specific way, or maybe having to forego something valuable could be a nice change of pace. This being said, I also really like the atmosphere of the map, especially the cellar... eesh !

Also... Am I particularly unlucky or did you guys tweak the Husks? I swear their kamikaze attacks is WAAAY faster than it used to. I played three matches yesterday and all of them ended with me blown up to smithereens. I'm probably very bad, but would it be possible to make them a liiiiittle more lenient?

 

[Barot8]

The new weapons all have some minor issues but because of that I think it's a good balance. Generally I like all the new weapons and hope they don't get nerfed into uselessness like the HRG Disrupter. The new map is nice, especially in the ghosts around the hanging tree detail. The mouse issue during the beta is game play breaking while it happens. Get used to looking up at the sky when it happens and giving the zeds a free grab at you. Seems to happen on picking up a new weapon or at the "room door". Also there's a big lag spike if you move to stand by it while it's still locked.

 

[Aleflippy]

The new weapons all have some minor issues but because of that I think it's a good balance. Generally I like all the new weapons and hope they don't get nerfed into uselessness like the HRG Disrupter. The new map is nice, especially in the ghosts around the hanging tree detail. The mouse issue during the beta is game play breaking while it happens. Get used to looking up at the sky when it happens and giving the zeds a free grab at you. Seems to happen on picking up a new weapon or at the "room door". Also there's a big lag spike if you move to stand by it while it's still locked.

What's the issue with the G36C? It's so damn versatile, I really struggle to see what would be it's weakness.