KF2 will use NVIDIA GameWorks Effects

[Rattler]

Yeah this is what I have but I am totally screwed because the game will probably look like its being played on Low since 99% of the options will be grayed out due to being Nvidia exclusive. Let alone the GORGEOUS Physx effects... The AMD owners are treated as sub humans as always :\

 

[nejcooo]

I heard Dying Light that used this "super" effects was runing bad on AMD and even Nvidia.

 

[DirtySpartan]

I heard Dying Light that used this "super" effects was runing bad on AMD and even Nvidia.

I can run it at full 60 with everything but shadows maxed out on my 970.

The game needs better CPU optimization since 1 core is always at 100% usage and the other ones hover around 30%

 

[Arblarg]

99%

Don't be so dramatic, you know that figure is BS. Even with the AMD house fire raging in your mind you know its crap.

You'll still be able to use SSAO in the place of HBAO and it will look fine maxed out in SSAO granted you can run it. You won't be missing much here visually because its more of an nvidia specific optimization than it is an nvidia specific aesthetic.

Screen Space Reflections will still work plenty fine for you, again though its more of a performance optimization than it is an Nvidia related aesthetic. However I have no doubt in my mind the back of your R9 2XX(x) will look exactly like the picture used in the example.

Screen Space Sub-Surface Scattering is indeed Nvidia specific, however like HBAO, the original (Sub-surface scattering) will still be supported for you. Again, this is more of a performance optimization.

Motion Blur, again, while the gameworks one is its own thing, there won't be much of a noticeable difference from the nvidia specific version and the standard. Why you would ever turn on motion blur is beyond me anyway, as its un-natural in video games and you're not playing on a console that uses it to cover up poor FPS.

Depth of Field, same as above. Nobody wants their vision in a video game to be as bad as their vision in real life. I for one like being 20/20 in video games.

Last but not least - PhysX. It is completely possible for you to run PhysX, albeit with a performance hit on AMD CPU/GPU's. While that is not recommended, its possible. Despite that unless you're constantly trying to watch particles the size of single pixels or you're thoroughly interested in calculating all the hair movement on a bloats backside, you're not missing out.

At the end of the day, never forget that AMD is a company because Intel and Nvidia let them.

 

[Rattler]

I never use DoF and Blur.

 

[The Rizzler]

I never use DoF and Blur.

Well then you can't justifiably complain about not being able to use 100% of the options if you're not going to use all of them then?

 

[osmodeus]

Well then you can't justifiably complain about not being able to use 100% of the options if you're not going to use all of them then?

you just invalidated 99% of the internet. complaining about things that don't personally affect you is what the internet is all about.

also paladins

 

[Ratiasu]

Nvidia is more expensive, but at least current gens is less stressy on temps and power usage than AMD. Nvidia is *** because of its anti open-source attitude. Like a few years ago, this guy found a way to get physx to work on AMD cards (or rather, get a cheapo Nvidia card for the Physx, and combine it with an AMD GPU which does the real work). They hired the guy and obviously the project was never heard of again.

AMD gives you similar performance for less money, but as I already said, power usage, temps, and generally worse drivers are a problem. I am curious whether or not their next gen scheduled for Q2 will have the new VRAM type or not.

Either way, I buy whatever is the best option for me at that time. Right now that would be a GTX970, Q2 probably a r9 300-series card.

Be glad they're both here, or we'd be having a real problem. Even if you like only 1 team, you'd better pray the other never goes bankrupt.

Same with CPU's, but the past 10 years I've never gotten myself to buy an AMD... Just... No thanks...

 

[Arblarg]

AMD will always be a company because Nvidia and Intel let them. They give them money and old foundry processes just so that they don't go out of business. Intel and Nvidia know that if AMD goes out of business they have to share trade information to allow new companies to start up, which is more expensive than just keeping life support on AMD.

Regardless, I am very interested to see what AMD does with the R9 300 series. If they're really truly water cooled out of the box, AMD will kill 2 birds with one stone, at which point all they need is to get a hold of drivers and the game market.

 

[nejcooo]

Well I stand corrected. R9 270 runs game great with everything on except AO off. Well done TW.

AAA developers that used this effects made me think that this will be bad news for AMD graphics owners.

 

[Sanguivore]

OMFG ! I am so sick and tired of hearing AMD fanbois screaming about how they feel they are being mistreated by game development companies. It was your choice to buy an AMD card, if some features aren't available because it is on Nvidia based technology then too bad. Reminds me of when the Xbox fanbois were crying because they got shafted with HDDVD instead of getting Bluray drives.

The inherent ignorant, closed minded, uneducated, pretentious, self righteous, arrogant, blow-hards like the poster Rattler has reached an all time high. Fanbois from BOTH camps are at fault. You guys are like a flock of seagulls fighting over a single fish.

I have built custom gaming rigs for many years now and there are strengths and weaknesses of BOTH brands. And for the record, I have had more friends, family, and customers happier with Nvidia than AMD (myself included) for different reasons.

This bullcrap about how Nvidia is cancer for PC needs to stop, along with "AMD only makes crap".

Also, this crap about how Nvidia wants to control the market and make it the industry standard while AMD with Mantle does not because they are going to release a SDK to the public is absolute hogwash. An interview with Robert Hallock on the Mantle API states the exact opposite. See link for more detail.

[url]http://www.techradar.com/news/computing/pc/amd-on-mantle-we-want-our-gaming-api-to-become-the-industry-standard-1218560[/URL]

Talk about uneducated fanboi hypocrisy.

If a game runs like crap on your system when you exceed the minimum requirements, then find out where the problem lies first BEFORE blindly jumping on a bandwagon. Is it an issue with the game devs, or outdated drivers, etc.

And props to you nejcooo for being the ONLY one to admit that they were wrong and actually post saying so. I am happy to hear that your fears were abated and that the game performs at a respectable level for you. If only there were more out there who could humble themselves and do the same.

I expect this post to get flamed from people who got butthurt at my remarks, especially Rattler since I called him out and he was one of the main antagonist from the beginning.

This thread has really become pointless and nothing more than a flame war and should be closed.

 

[Heavygunner]

You should get cookies for that post.

 

[Rush]

My game runs great on Ultra on my 280x, so no Issues I guess.

 

[[TW]Strago]

Just want to know what that means for people with AMD graphics. Is this like PhysX thing which kills our FPS if we turn it on?
http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/gamescom-2014-killing-floor-2-gameworks

Not all of Nvidia's technology is specific to Nvidia cards. In fact, every feature and effect in the game at Early Access is also available on AMD.

 

[Sanguivore]

Not all of Nvidia's technology is specific to Nvidia cards. In fact, every feature and effect in the game at Early Access is also available on AMD.

Thank you Strago for trying to clarify this for others. If it had came from someone like me instead of a TWI employee, it would have probably been dismissed. It's good to see that you guys are closely watching the forums and making valid input when the need arises.

 

[yuv912]

Not all of Nvidia's technology is specific to Nvidia cards. In fact, every feature and effect in the game at Early Access is also available on AMD.

Does that imply we'll see more advanced effects being added to the game later on?
FleX fluid, cloth and smoke simulation?

 

[Sanguivore]

Does that imply we'll see more advanced effects being added to the game later on?
FleX fluid, cloth and smoke simulation?

One can certainly hope for such goodies after the engine becomes more stable.

 

[Deathgrip22]

We should keep this about nVidia GameWorks - and not turn it into a AMD vs. nVidia war.

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All I know is, that I bought a mid-spec laptop and it's going to run the game at +60 fps with settings maxed out.

TWI is to be commended for making a game that run so well on low spec setups as well as looking so good on high end rigs.

Really wish you guys would give some of your thoughts on DX12 cause the silence is deafening and really DX12 optimizations matter more than any of this NV vs AMD debating.

 

[UserSD]

Hearing the conspiracy theories is aweome "Nvidia is evil", "AMD sucks", "Nvidia wants to control the market", "AMD has crap drivers"... Ultimately most of it is bull****, on either side.

Had both AMD and NV for years now, no meaningful differences aside from day 1 driver issues which happen on both brands at different times, and the odd half-dead card that needs to be RMA'd on both sides, they're pretty much the same bull**** - videocards that perform more or less according to spec.

Appart from willy-nilly proprietary bullcrap that honestly most people I know (myself included) could give less than a 2 bit flying f**k about, they're practially the same.

Go with bang-for-buck if you mind what you're paying for. Go with best performing top of the line if you don't. Simple.

 

[InnocentSam]

Just as an FYI, my friend has an AMD Radeon HD 6870 and he says the KF2 beta runs "perfectly fine" (whether that means 60FPS or just smooth by his standards, I don't know). So if KF2 uses Nvidia tech, it doesn't make much difference performance-wise.