Would be great for hosting the map on servers as well. I am looking forward to the next update
KF-Barmwich Town Open Beta
- Thread starter Wesker Luna
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Would be great for hosting the map on servers as well. I am looking forward to the next update
Great map! Just a few things:
-Lighting is good, but shadows and balance in some areas needs work.
-Particles and water effects on ground need repositioning!
-Maybe get some in face fog going?
-Seems too linear, they say you're avg kf map requires areas with at least 2 exits/entrances in them so you don't camp or get cornered.
-No sound effects at all! Please add these!
-Lighting is good, but shadows and balance in some areas needs work.
-Particles and water effects on ground need repositioning!
-Maybe get some in face fog going?
-Seems too linear, they say you're avg kf map requires areas with at least 2 exits/entrances in them so you don't camp or get cornered.
-No sound effects at all! Please add these!
The custom assets seem to actually be just ripped from Painkiller? Looks like you didn't give credit and probably used them without permission. 0/10 if so.
Painkiller: Hell & Damnation, First map: Cemetery. Since it's made on UE3, getting assets from it into KF2 is a piece of cake.
But what credit do you want to be given? It is copyrighted content. Using it without written permission of the owner is strictly prohibited. But let's face it: who f***ing cares?
Modders have been ripping assets from other games all the time. Nobody cares about it until it doesn't produce profit or officially included into KF.It isn't a big deal of using those assets imo. But the problem I see here is that author just copied entire part of the Painkiller's map into his own. It's not like he would used a few assets here and there. It would be fine for me if he would just make a remake of original PK map. But walking on the KF-Barmwich town and suddenly entering PK-Cemetery isn't right.
In addition, gameplay is just terrible. I think author chosen wrong game for map development. He made map for corridor shooter instead of arena. You starting from the dead end. Then you are given only two long circles to go, each of them has no other intersections. Then a single stairs on the upper level, which seems to be just a copy-paste job from lower level with a few minor additions. Upper level ends with a part of PK Cemetery map, which in turn is a dead end.
Map looks good though. But unfortunately it doesn't provide anything but a few nice screenshots to make.
The map seems ok. The layout leaves a lot to be desired.
It is a lot of interconnected hallways and small spaces, it doesn't seem like much thought was given to the general layout.
There are a lot of dead ends without connecting pathways or alternative routes/exits.
The church is a one way entrance/exit.
You are able to jump over the various barricades to get behind the map.
In one area there is a wooden stage. It would be nice for this to sit lower or allow us to walk up on it.
I guess I was expecting more based upon people's responses.
It is a lot of interconnected hallways and small spaces, it doesn't seem like much thought was given to the general layout.
There are a lot of dead ends without connecting pathways or alternative routes/exits.
The church is a one way entrance/exit.
You are able to jump over the various barricades to get behind the map.
In one area there is a wooden stage. It would be nice for this to sit lower or allow us to walk up on it.
I guess I was expecting more based upon people's responses.
In addition to Poosh's points above I see it as fair use. In my mind these are free maps being generated by the community and the mapper isn't financially or really benefiting personally from it.
If someone was directly ripping a map's layout or general gameplay off another map or product then I would see it as a bigger issue. Even then a lot of people do ports from one game to another with maps, etc. Not sure that it really matters when it comes down to it.
Some people just get upset over this sort of thing while it doesn't matter as much to other people such as myself.
Ask for permission. If you can't get it, too bad. Ripping content without permission gives a map an automatic 0 for me. This has nothing to do with "fair use" and doesn't fall into any of the categories that would allow for it to be. I'm not upset about it, I just think less of the map and its creator as they've ripped from someone else.
Do you plan on putting item spawns in anytime soon? Other than that, it's an awesome map.
Thanks!
Thanks!
Yeah, also added hidden items to find but Im pretty bussy right now, I had to remade all the level to make it playable in servers and Im working too in the final version of my West London map
Nice job on the map mate. The lighting and details are done well. I think people are being too harsh on this map for using assets from a different game. It's a cool map made for fun, not profit of course. I do agree that even if you didn't ask for permission to use the assets, they should be credited.
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