It is official?
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Of course it will be early access...do you ever read any KF2 Thread?
Here:
http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?p=1335841#post1335841
Also, as far i understand in the latest KF2 Diaries they told us, there are only 5 Perks to choose from and 10 per Class at all?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0udgqG7Uy3o
"you have 25 levels, and each 5th level you can use a perk, so you can have 5 perks at all"
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You misunderstood like everything.
There will be 4 perks in the initial eaccess release, they will keep adding onto that. There will be 10 perks in total.
5 Perk-skills...
Exactly, because there are not 10 Perkskills at all...
But to be honest, without subtitles it is a bit harder to understand, so i give a f*ck about that...if they are to lazy to add subtitles.
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You need to stop talking weird. It's been clear since KF2 started development:
Perks are the 10 different classes that you can pick from at any point in the game to play as, each focusing on different weapons and gameplay, IE Medic, Pyro, Demolitions, et cetera. There will be 4 perks in the game during Early Access, from the info in the video, and more will be added as time goes on.
Perk skills are the abilities newly introduced in KF2 that will be unique to each Perk and can be chosen from every 5 levels, and from what I've seen in the latest video, they'll be actually interesting to read about. Hopefully more could be added as the game ages. As far as we've seen, there's no confirmation that Early Access will even have levelling up perks or picking any skills. I'd guess there will be since 4 perks isn't a lot.
Also, concerning Early Access, I've never actually been involved in EA before, do you pay to participate, or is it a free beta? Would it be like paying $20 then getting a discount when the game comes out, or would it be paying full price for the game to participate in the closed beta?
Perks are the 10 different classes that you can pick from at any point in the game to play as, each focusing on different weapons and gameplay, IE Medic, Pyro, Demolitions, et cetera. There will be 4 perks in the game during Early Access, from the info in the video, and more will be added as time goes on.
Perk skills are the abilities newly introduced in KF2 that will be unique to each Perk and can be chosen from every 5 levels, and from what I've seen in the latest video, they'll be actually interesting to read about. Hopefully more could be added as the game ages. As far as we've seen, there's no confirmation that Early Access will even have levelling up perks or picking any skills. I'd guess there will be since 4 perks isn't a lot.
Also, concerning Early Access, I've never actually been involved in EA before, do you pay to participate, or is it a free beta? Would it be like paying $20 then getting a discount when the game comes out, or would it be paying full price for the game to participate in the closed beta?
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You pay to enter the Early Access since it's like pre-ordering a game, and then you also get access to the Alpha or Beta or whatever. Whether it's cheaper or full price depends entirely on how the dev wants to do things. I've seen both.
Sorry, but due to the cropping on my screen cap you can't see that I have the store page open in the steam's application store browser and not in a normal web browser and I'm not sure if it's possible to change the web html source in it to fake it the same way.
Nice trick though, didn't know that, maybe I'll use that to troll on my friends sometime ^^
You misinterpreted what I said. I was referring to early access coming out in April (or not).
The plot thickens!
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I don't think it's the violence that's the issue. It's the narrative. We all realize the pure violence and horrors of war in different times may well surpass something like a high school shooting in modern times, that would be the more valid comparison between Hatred and Total War. And yet the high school shooting hits home with most people, because it's senseless violence in a civilian context, it's shocking and disturbing. Maybe it shouldn't be, maybe we should realize worse things are happening every day somewhere in the world, but that's a different discussion.
As for comparing GTA and Hatred, in terms of gameplay you can do pretty much the same things, but there is a difference there too. While you can go on killing sprees in GTA, that's not the purpose of the game. Surely you can understand that a game like Hatred with its very specific focus is unsettling to people.
And I'm not talking about people who don't even play games and are shocked by everything. For me personally, I love violent games, I loved the dismemberment in Soldier of Fortune, I love TWI putting that in KF2, I wish more shooters were realistic and more violent.
But Hatred to me is akin to playing a detailed torture simulator or something, it crosses a line. Not because of the level of detail in gameplay, because the gameplay itself just looks ****, but just the narrative.
I don't think it should be banned or forbidden or anything like that, I just wanted to put the whole thing in perspective.
Please don't mention U.S school shootings and give them significance as on average over the last 10 years around 15,000 people were murdered each year. I'd guess about 50 people are killed in U.S school shootings a year (which would be about 0.3%). It almost seems disrespectful to the other 14,950 or so people murdered in U.S each year.I don't think it's the violence that's the issue. It's the narrative. We all realize the pure violence and horrors of war in different times may well surpass something like a high school shooting in modern times, that would be the more valid comparison between Hatred and Total War. And yet the high school shooting hits home with most people, because it's senseless violence in a civilian context, it's shocking and disturbing. Maybe it shouldn't be, maybe we should realize worse things are happening every day somewhere in the world, but that's a different discussion.
As for comparing GTA and Hatred, in terms of gameplay you can do pretty much the same things, but there is a difference there too. While you can go on killing sprees in GTA, that's not the purpose of the game. Surely you can understand that a game like Hatred with its very specific focus is unsettling to people.
And I'm not talking about people who don't even play games and are shocked by everything. For me personally, I love violent games, I loved the dismemberment in Soldier of Fortune, I love TWI putting that in KF2, I wish more shooters were realistic and more violent.
But Hatred to me is akin to playing a detailed torture simulator or something, it crosses a line. Not because of the level of detail in gameplay, because the gameplay itself just looks ****, but just the narrative.
I don't think it should be banned or forbidden or anything like that, I just wanted to put the whole thing in perspective.
You mean unarmed civillians? Total War has many civillian units in the battles and also in some Total War games when you siege a town there would be enemy units of civillians of the town who were defending their home.
Also like I previously said, Total War does also have killing civillian populations on the campaign map and you can kill millions of them.
GTA V does also have missions where you kill civillians too. For example I remember Trevor's rampage missions where he kills different groups of people... one was killing hipsters.
They are civillians fighting back but I don't really see how that would make much of a difference; As if killing civillians is not as bad if they have a weapon and are trying to defend their lives from a murderer.
I don't know if there are objective in Hatred to actually kill civillians but either way there isn't much difference to many other games as (besides GTA missions killing civillians) in GTA games you effectively score for klling civillians by gaining cash and there have been many other games where the main objectives are to kill civillians.
I remember a old ps1 or ps2 game with endless vast, dense crowds of civillians running around in riots and you would have objectives something like kill 1,000 civillians in less than a minute with a machine gun etc.
Regardless of other games where there are objectives to kill civillians, killing people is killing people and we shouldn't submit and conform to some silly and childish ideas such as that the mindstate which someone has that causes them to kill people or the things they say when they kill people or the body language they use etc makes killing someone any moreo r less worse as murder is murder.
On a final note on comparing video games - the narrative of Medieval Total War for example is a narrative of Medieval times where invaders invade purley for the reasons of pillage and conquest etc and often towns are given no quarter (all inhabitants will be killed).
So if anything it would arguably be morally worse to kill those who had the bravery and decency to pickup weapons to fight the invaders as they knew that they and most other innocents would likely be killed either way.
Continued video game and violence rant:
Spoiler!
end rant. sry I just looked up lol.
I won't reply again as we are so offtopic lol but then as far as I can tell this thread is just discussing some photoshop so doesn't seem like a big deal to go offtopic.
Yea in a way GTA V, Hatred and Witcher III releases in the next few months will be a good time for Early Access as the hardcore KF2 fans will still be happy to play KF2 instead of those games
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Haha, I knew its waaay offtopic but I was bored after my daily KF2 news search.
You make some good points, and I think I'll leave it at that as well and continue refreshing the KF reddit/forums like an addict. OnT : My guess is EA sometime in April. Doesn't matter if there are some heavy other titles coming out, I'm pretty hyped for Witcher 3 myself, it's only Early Access after all.
Who will know except the developer?
We don't know when they will release the ea or the final game.
But the rumors said around april.
Some weeks ago, i used the steam search with "comming soon games" and use the order "date" killing floor 2 was between some games that would be released between april and march, maybe it was just random, but maybe it was because KF2 will come in the 2. Quartal.
Well, SURPRISE game elements can change in development.
Also how early access works is clear since it was invented into steam...
But thanks for the Answer with the information
early access is known since it was on steam ...you could easily answer yourself with a 1 second google search:
http://store.steampowered.com/earlyaccessfaq/
p.s. i did not have talked much english the last year...which could cause some of the misunderstandings
there'd be more of lead up to something like that, with an announcement of the upcoming EA wouldn't there?
regardless of the EA, im expecting the actual game to come out around October. To beat out COD:15 by one month, which will have it's own competing Horde mode, and because the particularly grisly violence and survival horror theme fit with the holiday - like Slasher flicks.
If you say so, but you're going to crucified if you're lying man. Just know that.
I just love how the more I follow this thread the odds just keep stacking against me
