I'll Show You Mine If You'll Show Me Yours (Part Deux)

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Peter.Steele

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Found two local Mosin M44s for $200 total. Comes with ammo pouch, sling, tools, ect. Standard stuff.

Assuming they are in good condition, is this a good deal?

They look like they are in good condition, but looking for some quick advice. At $100, that is cheaper than most 91/30s here.



What year?

Tula or Izhevsk?

Are all parts stamped matching, or do some parts have electro pencil serial numbers?

Do the parts have the full serial number or just the last 3 or 4 digits?

Has the muzzle been counterbored?

What's the bore like?

Do they have marks on them anywhere that look like a square with a line vertically through the middle, or a square with a diagonal?

Solid hardwood or laminated stock? (In the picture it -looks- like it's not laminated ... but I'm just checking.)



Etc., etc., etc.


If either one is a 1943, get it. There's very very few 1943's out there. There's a fair number of '44 and '45's out there. Looks like yours might be either postwar or a refurb with a nice enough stock. If either has a hex receiver, GET IT. Some earlier receivers were laying around and used, or possibly other rifles were recycled - I don't think anyone really knows.

The square-with-line marks were used by one or another of the arsenals to indicate that the rifle was refurbished.

If it's Tula, that's better than Izhevsk - rarer, plus better fit and finish. (You can tell the difference - Tula is marked with a large star on the top of the barrel shank, Izhevsk is not.)

Laminated stocks are pretty, and do better with changes in humidity.


But, in general, yeah - $200 for a pair of M44's is a pretty good price, if they're both nice rifles.
 

Flogger23m

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Wow, thanks for the info. That does help.

Sent him an email asking some more questions. He didn't give a whole lot of info.

I am assuming they are electro penciled due to the price though.

I guess either way, it is a good price assuming the barrels are in good condition?
 

dextronaut

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Not really. You've got a duty to retreat, even in your own home.

You shoot someone in your house and you've got a door behind you, and it doesn't matter what the situation was, you're done. Game over. Done.

also, you cant shoot someone in your house if they arent armed. thats total BS. if someones in my house, and im an old elderly person who cant defend myself, i should be able to use a gun for defense if they try to physically attack me.

on the brightside, there isnt anything about bayonets. someone in your house, stab away!
 

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Found two local Mosin M44s for $200 total. Comes with ammo pouch, sling, tools, ect. Standard stuff.

Assuming they are in good condition, is this a good deal?

They look like they are in good condition, but looking for some quick advice. At $100, that is cheaper than most 91/30s here.

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If that is both rifles, they both have laminated stocks, and the bottom one is stamped matching on the bolt, and stamped matching with a line out on the magazine floor plate, both with the Cyrillic prefix. Judging by the features of the receiver, and Bayonet mount, it was made in late '45, or early '46. M44's are getting harder to find so $100 each is a good deal. Especially with laminated stocks.

Here is one of mine for reference.
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Edit: Oops, sorry I was too late.
 
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Freak1

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Im a collector of militaria and i bought it from another collector,was really cheap(50
 

Flogger23m

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Went shooting today. Have a horrible phone video:
YouTube - Shooting the AR-15




End results:




Shooting to the right, but otherwise my group/pattern is around 4-5 inches or so. Think it is because when the gun recoils, I seem to pull it to the side?

I was using my red dot. Sight seems to be centered. If I move the dot to the left, it does not look centered with the front sight.

Either way, better than last time. Wish I could go out more often.
 

Flogger23m

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Since there are plenty of Mosin fans here...

I might be able to pick an a Polish M44 for $115. Looks good overall, 1952 rifle. Only problem is the bolt does not match.

Is this still a good price?
 

Capt.Marion

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As long as the headspacing is alright with the mismatched bolt. Judging by the lack of M44s on the web for sale, $115 isn't bad, especially considering that you'd have to pay shipping and FFL processing for anything you bought on the web, too...

I got my 91/30 for $100 which I think was a very good deal, so $115 for a M44 is not bad at all.
 

Flogger23m

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Yeah, think I will be picking it up for $100 along with a nice looking 91/30.

Will let you all know how it turns out.
 

Peter.Steele

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Sounds like a damned fine deal to me, actually. My M44 was a lot cheaper, but it was also several years ago, and it's in really pretty terrible shape - unsafe to shoot, due to a VERY weak sear spring.

My 91/30's and M38 were ... actually about the same price, once the DROS and misc bull**** People's Republik fees are counted into the deal. (Of course, my 91/30's are both Tulas, and one is a converted Dragoon rifle, the other is a PU.)
 

Flogger23m

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Tell me about the fees. $134 out the door for my $100 Mosin I bought at Big 5. Another $12 if i did not return the lock.

My local Big 5s have M38s, but one of them has the numbers sanded off, and other other looks pretty beat up. $150 on sale, plus DROS and tax.

I'll probably sell the 91/30 and keep the M44.
 

Peter.Steele

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Tell me about the fees. $134 out the door for my $100 Mosin I bought at Big 5. Another $12 if i did not return the lock.

My local Big 5s have M38s, but one of them has the numbers sanded off, and other other looks pretty beat up. $150 on sale, plus DROS and tax.

I'll probably sell the 91/30 and keep the M44.



What's the deal with the 91/30? If it's something spiffy, I might be interested ... ?
 

Oberschutze

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I guess I'll join in. In addition to these I also have a P08 luger, a Romanian TT33, and a Type 99 that I have not had a chance to upload photos of yet.

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Flogger23m

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Looks like your average 91/30, 1942, Russian, nothing special. Will be picking them up sometime this week.

Oberschutze, that is a nice collection.

Edit: 91/30 is a Tula all matching stamped numbers. For $100, I guess it is good?

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