Ideas for low-tech Russian unlocks

[DesiQ]

Let's be honest with each other: Russian unlocks are terrible. I mean really awful. Aside from the drum mag, there's nothing I can see that actually helps in combat in any meaningful way. A silencer on my revolver, really? And meanwhile the Germans get a full-auto pistol with a stock.

I think it's well within the early technological capabilities of the Russians to have field-modified weapons. For example, take a hacksaw to the barrel of a DP-28 or PPSh and cut some gas ports on the top side to reduce muzzle climb (like a ghetto Cutts compensator). The velocity of the bullet will suffer, but it will hardly matter at the ranges we're working at. Show the Russians some love!

 

[Rocker Fox]

this, i would love this idea.

Russian ramshackle upgrades would be really awesome.

Two that i could think off the top of my head:

1) Duct tape bayonets, maybe on the PPSH or dp28

2) duct taped dual mags for tt-33

 

[Krobar]

this, i would love this idea.

Russian ramshackle upgrades would be really awesome.

Two that i could think off the top of my head:

1) Duct tape bayonets, maybe on the PPSH or dp28

2) duct taped dual mags for tt-33

 

[Rocker Fox]

But Ot, i think ramshackle stuff would fit well and is a good idea, like even a counterweight on the mg or something like a salvaged sling for a gun

 

[Krobar]

It just was that your ideas are impossible... how does one duct tape a fully concealed magazine to another fully concealed magazine and still use them properly?

How does one apply a bayonet to something where "duct tape" would melt right off...?

Ramshackle weapon: Rock; thrown at enemies or used to bludgeon, chance to knock down, knock out or bludgeon one to any extent.

Ramshackle weapon: Anything made of any heavy material that is easy to whack one with at a decent distance. Examples: Crowbar, Pipe, Machine Gun barrel.

 

[J Moldy]

I would really like to see the Obrez in the game.

Take a Mosin Nagant 91/30.

Saw off most of the front, and the stock, until it looks like a pistol.

Congratulations! You now have a bolt action pistol that fires full rifle rounds, is one of the loudest weapons on earth, and has a fireball as long as your arm! Oh, and don't forget, it sounds like a grenade going off every time you shoot it.

Let's face it. This would be way cooler to have than a TT-33.

 

[DesiQ]

Oh I would love the Obrez.

 

[DingDong09]

Give Soviet machine gunner a DSHK on wheels , then level 50 upgrade is a motor for it . Make it penetrate about 10 walls in a row and kill Germans with toe shots. Problem solved.

Also give Soviets the broomhandle mauser.

 

[J Moldy]

If the Obrez sawn-off pistol doesn't really appeal to you, you may be interested in one or two of /k/'s creations. First up, the DNMT: Double Nagant Multi Tool.

(If someone can tell me how to resize the image to something more reasonable I'd be grateful. )

If this still doesn't click with you, you may alternatively be interested in the Xzibit Bayonet.

 

[flavin420]

this, i would love this idea.

Russian ramshackle upgrades would be really awesome.

Two that i could think off the top of my head:

1) Duct tape bayonets, maybe on the PPSH or dp28

2) duct taped dual mags for tt-33

L0L they would never have this in RO, I would be done with this game if this happened, JK ill never stop playing RO. BF3 is gonna give my HOS playtime some trouble though.

 

[Centimeter]

I would really like to see the Obrez in the game.

Take a Mosin Nagant 91/30.

Saw off most of the front, and the stock, until it looks like a pistol.

Congratulations! You now have a bolt action pistol that fires full rifle rounds, is one of the loudest weapons on earth, and has a fireball as long as your arm! Oh, and don't forget, it sounds like a grenade going off every time you shoot it.

Let's face it. This would be way cooler to have than a TT-33.

i'd like to see expression on face of an officer who sees a soldier make this 'obrez' from a rifle.

 

[J Moldy]

i'd like to see expression on face of an officer who sees a soldier make this 'obrez' from a rifle.

Good question.

By all accounts, the Mosin Nagant is perhaps one of the most abused rifles in history. The weapon was intentionally designed to withstand far more punishment than most weapons would accept before breaking, before it even started to go wrong. Seriously, the weapon gives the AK-47 a run for its money in terms of reliability and cheapness.

Knowing this, I am not sure at all how an officer would respond. On one hand, it could be considered destruction of State property, and could result in severe punishment. You're not just destroying the government's rifle, you're destroying everyone's rifle.

On the other hand, it's not like there was any shortage of MN 91/30's by any means, and considering that the Red Army was attempting to replace as many of them with SVT's and sub machine guns, that means that there were probably still more lying around, so losing one isn't going to make any difference.

On top of that, if it made you more effective at killing the facists, they might have considered that an acceptable tradeoff.

So my answer: I have no clue. Anyone with a bit more knowledge on the Red Army?

 

[DesiQ]

I think the Red Army would have been flexible enough to allow soldiers to make an Obrez. It seemed they celebrated innovation in the fine art of killing facisti (as evidenced by their lionising of specialist soldiers), so I'd think they'd be okay with whatever worked.

Love the expandable bayonet. It's almost a pike!

 

[[Mad_Murdock]]

I think the obrez would be a cool pistol unlock for soviets. Dont know how realistic since as far as i know the only examples come from revolutionaries and partisan groups, but it would be an ineresting dynamic to face off the auto broomhandle.

With the pike bayonet, it should get shorter with each kill as each bayonet sticks in the target and pulls off the stack

 

[Centimeter]

Good question.

By all accounts, the Mosin Nagant is perhaps one of the most abused rifles in history.

obrez is a weapon of bandits, small for hidden carrying and storaging, hypotetically could have been used by partisans if they decided to play assassins, but in this case they'd most likely be given a pistol. red army replaced them with svt before the war and returned to their production in the course of war. even there were millions of rifles produced during war it probably was difficult to measure current quantity, especially for soldiers on the frontline. so answer to possibility of having obrez of mosin rifle probably could be found in research of attitude to captured or picked up weapons in red army. nevertheless i do not see it possible for regular army soldier to spoil his, or even picked up weapon this way to get a piece of armament with dubious fighting capabilities.

 

[Vesper11]

obrez is a weapon of bandits, small for hidden carrying and storaging, hypotetically could have been used by partisans if they decided to play assassins, but in this case they'd most likely be given a pistol. red army replaced them with svt before the war and returned to their production in the course of war. even there were millions of rifles produced during war it probably was difficult to measure current quantity, especially for soldiers on the frontline. so answer to possibility of having obrez of mosin rifle probably could be found in research of attitude to captured or picked up weapons in red army. nevertheless i do not see it possible for regular army soldier to spoil his, or even picked up weapon this way to get a piece of armament with dubious fighting capabilities.

Yep, I bet if an officer saw soviet soldier "modifing" his rifle this way, he would have shot him on sight.

 

[[TORO]Patosentado]

A shotgun? There were not reguraly used in the Army, but a lot by NKVD/Partisans/commandos in the Red Army...

 

[Centimeter]

Yep, I bet if an officer saw soviet soldier "modifing" his rifle this way, he would have shot him on sight.

yea, then eat his flesh.

 

[RedGuardist]

Yep, I bet if an officer saw soviet soldier "modifing" his rifle this way, he would have shot him on sight.

Yeah, right...Soviet officers shot their own men all day long, that was actually their main duty. For example if one forgot to tie his shoelaces well enough and an officer nevermind a politruk saw him...you know what happened...



But seriously, the soldier who would cut his rifle would have met punishment, no question about that. Just like in any other army. In worst case he might have been send to the strafbat for saboteuring state property.

 

[[Mad_Murdock]]

Yep, I bet if an officer saw soviet soldier "modifing" his rifle this way, he would have shot him on sight.

Im sure there would have been some punishment like Guardist suggested, but this is just silly.

Off topic:
It gets to you too Guardist huh? I try so hard not to make an asshat out of myself when these things come up. You from the old country too?