I prefer to play Allies over Axis

[neonmodder]

Frankly I just always play germans because I'm in love with their style. The way their uniforms look, the design of their equipment, they just have a certain look. It's almost like they have their own class of -punk. There's Dieselpunk, Steampunk, and then there's GermanPunk.

Even before I began seriously studying the history and equipment of WWII I began to notice. I remember when I was playing the Forgotten Hope mod for Battlefield 1942, one of the tanks the german team had access to was the Panzer 38t. I pointed out to the other players that the tank looked odd to me and didn't look like it was german. They told me I was indeed correct and that it was a captured Czech tank painted with german markings and pressed into service.

Whenever I come across images of something from WWII I've never seen before I can usually peg it to being german equipment if it is. That says something about their visual style, that I can identify it that easily just on "look" alone.

So yeah. That's why I always play german.

 

[[Claude]Claude]

I play allies mostly as well, although if the Germans are short of players when I join the server I'll go them.

Don't really see what all the fuss is about the weapons either. I get plenty of kills on both sides, in fact I probably prefer the Russian weapons over all.

 

[Pvt.pile]

Lolz ive upset the nazi fan bois . Read Syre Lancaster's post thats what worries me.

 

[Criticalt3]

N word? Nazis?

How the bloody hell has that become a bad word on a World War II focused forum? It's what they were. National Socialists.

Might as well delete a thread for mentioning "commies" or "fascists".

I really like your signature.

 

[the_Monk]

Where I'm from we hated the nazis, but we hated the communists even more. The nazis gave us a decade of trouble, the soviets gave us four.

So...
*Raises the banner of germany*
Sieg Heil.

Edit: I agree Mr Ninety Nine
The Germans had skill, good generals(as far as tactics goes), great equipment and a iron will.
The Russians just threw millions of their young men into battle, hoping the clog up the gears of the Nazi war machine.
As bad as the national socialists were ethically and morally, they took care of their own.

Sigh.....it's people like you who give germans (not nazi scum) a bad name.

With posts like these floating around on the forums it's no wonder anything german leaves a bad taste in people's mouths.

I am of german descent. I abhor the nazi past of a stupid german society and will never change my view on that.

On behalf of all germans and those of german descent I apologise for forums posts such as the one I've quoted here. There is no excuse for posts or even viewpoints such as yours Syre Lancaster. Anyone who uses the SS in their name/sig is sick. Shame on you!

 

[Pagan]

*Raises the banner of germany*
Sieg Heil.

 

[Alperce]

Lolz ive upset the nazi fan bois . Read Syre Lancaster's post thats what worries me.

Syre Lancaster's post is pretty stupid, however in Germany the soviets did infact do much worse than the Nazis.

I think you missed the point. If you actually read what people posted, you would see that no one is a Nazi fanboy. We are simply stating that saying Nazi is not an insult, and that it should not be a forbiden word. It's simply the designation of the regime that Germany was under during the time in which RO occurs.

Or by saying Nazi, you're a white pride maniac? I mean, you don't even know who you are talking to, I'm Hispanic, so how in god's name could I ever be a Nazi?

EDIT: Oh, and Syre Lancaster, I mean dude what you did there was completely stupid. the_Monk is right, it's people like you that make the world call Germans Nazis almost 70 years after the war.

 

[OnTheGun]

Its a bad word full stop because of the millions and millions of people that suffered and died during WWII in the worlds biggest lose of human life to date.

Which you are here re-enacting for fun.

Hmm.... something isn't quite right there, but I can't put my finger on it.

I'm not sure if it's the melodramatic way you refer to the war, or if it's the fact you think this is a serious and solemn subject that you must be sensitive about... while having fun pretending you are doing it for real.

 

[Sir Roderick]

I really like your signature.

I get that a lot.

Also, +1 on the German is not Nazi point.
There's no need for anything like Lancaster's comment.

 

[red army]

Where I'm from we hated the nazis, but we hated the communists even more. The nazis gave us a decade of trouble, the soviets gave us four.

So...
*Raises the banner of germany*
Sieg Heil.

Edit: I agree Mr Ninety Nine
The Germans had skill, good generals(as far as tactics goes), great equipment and a iron will.
The Russians just threw millions of their young men into battle, hoping the clog up the gears of the Nazi war machine.
As bad as the national socialists were ethically and morally, they took care of their own.

Not only do you show your fervent neo-nazism in that quote, you also show your ignorance. It is really hilarious to see all the Nazi fanboys, basing their judgments of the Soviet Army based on ****ty Hollywood movies, don't even bother to do any research before coming to stupid conclusions like "Russians just threw men at German lalala"...Why don't you do some research before spewing crap like that. First off, the idea that Soviets used human waves was largely a false stereotype. Any suicidal charges were done due to bad leadership on smaller level squad leaders who didn't want to be persecuted by upper levels, and done out of ignorance in military tactics (thanks to Stalin's purges). With that said, suicidal charges that we so often see today in movies were EXTREMELY rare in real life. Read this thread :http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?122932-Soviet-quot-human-waves-quot. Very informative, and so are the gentlemen posting on there.
Secondly, German equipment was probably some of the most OVERRATED of wwII. The T-34 and KV-1 were in the beginning of the war superior to German shortbarreled PZIV's and PZ III's, and later in the war, the IS-2 was able to penetrate tiger I/Panther front from 1500m - 2000m depending on conditions. And plus how many Tiger Is were built? However the Tiger I was barely able to do the same to IS-2, and can only penetrate IS-2's front from 100m and below. the Panther only had slightly better luck, around 6-700 m.The upgraded T-34-85 was also able to penetrate Tiger I front from 1000m. So overall in my opinion tank wise the Soviets weren't any worse off. Airforce wise, the Soviet planes were probably some of the most underrated also. The Yak series was even praised by Germans for maneuverability, but most striking is the IL-2 Schturmovik. It was nicknamed the "flying tank", because only the German 88 AA gun can shoot it down (And those guns were slow to fire so IL-2s were usually pretty successful). As for personal opinion, in my opinion the PPSH-41 was the best submachine gun of the war, though the German MGs did probably have an edge over Soviet ones.
It is also coming to me that people are constantly saying Soviet steel is worse than German. Not at all, in fact it was quite the opposite. Soviets used Rolled Homogenous Steel, and it was reportedly stronger and harder than German dragged chromed steel. Even Heinz Guderian said he believed Soviet steel was of better quality in his book Panzer Leaders. Especially as the war went on, Germans ran out of manganese, making their armor especially brittle, while the Soviets had access to unlimited amounts of manganese, further ensuring their higher quality steel, whether for their planes or their tanks.
O yeah and as far as im concerned the iron will you said of about German troops was probably even stronger in Soviets. You cant at all say that the Soviets lacked iron will compared to Germans, as obviously the individual red army soldier was more brave and willing to defend his motherland than any other in the war. The Germans were, invaders after all, and that makes a big difference on morale. Many German veterans who wrote their own war memoirs even remember wondering what the hell were they doing in Russia. While the Russian soldier knows his duty and purpose, and that is to defend his motherland, his family, and his people.
I will disprove more of these idiotic stereotypes once i get reminded of them some more but these are the ones on my mind right now.

 

[Pvt.Benny]

I read on forums that most people prefers Allies, but when i enter a random server, i'm barley able to join the Axis team

Personaly i prefer the germans, just love the weapons and uniform looks. But i do love the iron sights on the russian guns..

 

[NoxNoctum]

Stalin murdered more people than Hitler did, just sayin'. Yet nobody even blinks at the word communist.

History is written by the victors and all that.

Mention socialism to 50% of the American population and they'll go into cardiac arrest.

 

[OnTheGun]

Or by saying Nazi, you're a white pride maniac? I mean, you don't even know who you are talking to, I'm Hispanic, so how in god's name could I ever be a Nazi?

The Spanish were essentially Nazis. In fact they lasted a lot longer than Germany. Into the 70's in fact.

What you are doing is exactly what you are saying people shouldn't do. You're assuming only white Europeans can be Nazis. You're wrong. It's a political system, not a racial property. This will blow your mind: There were Jewish Nazis before WWII. In fact much of the world was heading that way.

Hitler had taken a country where it used to cost a million marks to buy a loaf of bread and made it the economic and technological powerhouse of Europe in under a decade. People all over the world saw that and decided it was what they wanted too.

It wasn't until the extermination of the Jews was exposed that people saw it for what it was. Most people didn't mind the Jews being treated badly, however. They mostly did it to the minorities in their own countries too. It was the systematic extermination of Jews that woke the world up to the evils of the totalitarian mindset.

The American and British Nazi parties were banned after the declaration of war against Germany. In fact one of the reasons the Americans didn't enter the war for so long is because they were the source of most of Hitlers ideas - eugenics, hardcore militant nationalism, racism and legally acceptable violence against minorities.

The native Americans were being exterminated quietly for a century by the same people that "saved us" from the Nazis, and they were lynching African Americans well into the 60's. There isnt much difference between a "reservation" and a "concentration camp".

The world remembers that Hitler didn't shake Jesse Owens' hand, but:

"Owens recounted "When I passed the Chancellor he arose, waved his hand at me, and I waved back at him. I think the writers showed bad taste in criticising the man of the hour in Germany." He also stated "Hitler didn't snub me — it was FDR who snubbed me. The president didn't even send me a telegram.""

The victors write the history books, so the losers always look like the bad guys, no matter what. I'm not saying the Nazis weren't bad - just not that exceptional.

 

[Arachnoid]

I play Russians because I like Communism.

I hate communism, because i lived in former communist European country. Do you have the same real experience?

I like to play more Axis, because of they weapons.

 

[Hypno Toad]

I prefer axis. Mainly I like the clean and sharp look and feel of all the guns. Also, their battle chatter is far less cheesy. Cant play Russians without hearing "**** their pants" at least 10 times per game.

I like russian/soviet guns IRL, but this game, to me, just doesn't make them "feel" very good. The mosin nagant feels plasticy, the ppsh's recoil is a bit through the roof and the sound for it lacks oomph

I hate communism, because i lived in former communist European country. Do you have the same real experience?

I like to play more Axis, because of they weapons.

Cant be sure of his intentions, but there's lots of 13 year olds who "like communism" because they want to feel like an individual.

 

[theta123]

I prefer to play as the guys in the yellowish uniforms because I feel they are under-classed by they guys in the greenish-grey uniforms! I feel the greenish grey uniform guys weapons are much more powerful and accurate than the guys in the yellowish uniforms!

It just feels better to play on the team with the yellowish uniforms because I get a sense of accompishment that I don't get with the other team.

Does anyone else feel this way?



*I reposted upset and have since revised my original post ..... Happy Fraggin! I was wrong to post angry..... Please forgive me


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Yep, i dont play germans as much...because yeah, you pretty much win. my win ratio is 0.25 but i dont care.

 

[Sir Roderick]

Not only do you show your fervent neo-nazism in that quote, you also show your ignorance. It is really hilarious to see all the Nazi fanboys, basing their judgments of the Soviet Army based on ****ty Hollywood movies, don't even bother to do any research before coming to stupid conclusions like "Russians just threw men at German lalala"...Why don't you do some research before spewing crap like that. First off, the idea that Soviets used human waves was largely a false stereotype. Any suicidal charges were done due to bad leadership on smaller level squad leaders who didn't want to be persecuted by upper levels, and done out of ignorance in military tactics (thanks to Stalin's purges). With that said, suicidal charges that we so often see today in movies were EXTREMELY rare in real life. Read this thread :[url]http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?122932-Soviet-quot-human-waves-quot[/URL]. Very informative, and so are the gentlemen posting on there.
Secondly, German equipment was probably some of the most OVERRATED of wwII. The T-34 and KV-1 were in the beginning of the war superior to German shortbarreled PZIV's and PZ III's, and later in the war, the IS-2 was able to penetrate tiger I/Panther front from 1500m - 2000m depending on conditions. And plus how many Tiger Is were built? However the Tiger I was barely able to do the same from to IS-2 100m and the Panther had better luck, around 6-700 m.The upgraded T-34-85 was also able to penetrate Tiger I front from 1000m. So overall in my opinion tank wise the Soviets weren't any worse off. Airforce wise, the Soviet planes were probably some of the most underrated also. The Yak series was even praised by Germans for maneuverability, but most striking is the IL-2 Schturmovik. It was nicknamed the "flying tank", because only the German 88 AA gun can shoot it down (And those guns were slow to fire so IL-2s were usually pretty successful). As for personal opinion, in my opinion the PPSH-41 was the best submachine gun of the war, though the German MGs did probably have an edge over Soviet ones.
It is also coming to me that people are constantly saying Soviet steel is worse than German. Not at all, in fact it was quite the opposite. Soviets used Rolled Homogenous Steel, and it was reportedly stronger and harder than German dragged chromed steel. Even Heinz Guderian said he believed Soviet steel was of better quality in his book Panzer Leaders. Especially as the war went on, Germans ran out of manganese, making their armor especially brittle, while the Soviets had access to unlimited amounts of manganese, further ensuring their higher quality steel, whether for their planes or their tanks.
O yeah and as far as im concerned the iron will you said of about German troops was probably even stronger in Soviets. You cant at all say that the Soviets lacked iron will compared to Germans, as obviously the individual red army soldier was more brave and willing to defend his motherland than any other in the war. The Germans were, invaders after all, and that makes a big difference on morale. Many German veterans who wrote their own war memoirs even remember wondering what the hell were they doing in Russia. While the Russian soldier knows his duty and purpose, and that is to defend his motherland, his family, and his people.
I will disprove more of these idiotic stereotypes once i get reminded of them some more but these are the ones on my mind right now.

Well I'm definately not trying to suppport Lancaster here, but a pretty big part of Russian strategy consisted of "keep throwing men at it." Especially Stalingrad.

Ever hear of Zhukov? He was one of the most ruthless ones, they just did not care about the soldiers at all. Thousands were executed in Stalingrad alone for "cowardice" or "defeatist propaganda". Thousands of men killed intentionally by their own side.

I partially agree on the "overrated German tech" stuff, but you're swinging too far in the other direction.

 

[Raquel]

Me too OP, during beta and first couple of days after release i always played axis simply because i prefered their weapons, but lately i've been playing allies and imo its more fun and challenging, plus im in love with ppsh + drum mag

 

[Sir Roderick]

I hate communism, because i lived in former communist European country. Do you have the same real experience?

I like to play more Axis, because of they weapons.

My grandparents on one side were Polish, forced to leave the country because of the Nazis.

It goes both ways you know.

 

[Arachnoid]

My grandparents on one side were Polish, forced to leave the country because of the Nazis.

It goes both ways you know.

So you shouldnt forget Katyn massacre and communist terror in Poland after WW2. CCCP did perhaps much more harm to Poland than Nazi Germany.