I bet half of the beta KF2 players didn't even play KF1

[bison88]

It's going to get a lot worse for the next couple of months. It comes with the territory. Even though 3 million people bought KF1 over the course of 6 years, probably over 90% never bothered to put the time and effort to learn the game properly. It was just a fun side game. KF2 will be no different, but with a bigger audience.

It takes real time and effort to learn the basics and a lot of people I talked to said it's kind of a pain to forget what you knew in KF1 while playing the KF2 beta because most of it doesn't apply. Guarantee most of the basic mechanics have changed a little. It'll take time before the mechanics are relearned, although previous players probably have a leg up in that sense.

As someone mentioned though, most of what you mentioned exists in KF1, even amongst veterans. When moving up from Normal to Hard to Suicidal to HOE everything you learned previously doesn't apply quite the same. In life it seems the small changes trip people up the most and having to relearn the changes in game play can make you feel like a novice again. Many don't have patience once you climb up in difficulties to teach you what they learned.

 

[rodrigoxm49]

The only thing that I don't agree with is the engaging scrs and fps. What are we supposed to do? There's no dmg dealer class in the game yet. There's no ss, no demo.. I've seen only 2 zerks so far who know how to parry the scr and fp so I find it ok for now that we all should shoot the big enemies. What we can do besides that anyway?

Exactly! Just like I say in another topic, we have to wait for others perks to make full judgments about the game.

But he is right about players on beta. More than a half of them just don't have any experience at all on KF.

The SC and FP aproach is very wrong almost all the time.

 

[ellesee]

If you want to join a game you need to get good and if you want to get good you need to join a game... a cruel world we live in.

 

[Headless]

^this. If any veterans want to teamup, you can add me on Steam.

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198002212159/

 

[rodrigoxm49]

It takes real time and effort to learn the basics and a lot of people I talked to said it's kind of a pain to forget what you knew in KF1 while playing the KF2 beta because most of it doesn't apply. Guarantee most of the basic mechanics have changed a little. It'll take time before the mechanics are relearned, although previous players probably have a leg up in that sense.

The basic mechanic still there. Scrake is 99% similar. FP changes the rage mechanics, but nothing big. Still almost the same FP.

Of course most of the players with beta don't have any idea how to play KF properly. These keys was sended to anyone, not for KF experienced players. That's why we see very wrong behaviors and approach.

 

[PurpleFanta]

There's nothing wrong with playing some pub games. After only playing KF1 with my friends for ~ 200 hours, I went back on during a free weekend to play with a bunch of new players, and it was actually incredibly fun/funny to play with completely new players.

There's not really a problem with the fact that there arent 100% OG Killing floor players playing. There isnt a problem with pub games.

I've also played with my fair share of players that are really good, some even better than me.

 

[Vulparia]

You're complaining that some people haven't played KF1, really? You're seriously complaining about the playerbase of a game in beta that you can access for free via a code?

You dangle the words "free game" infront of people and most of them will want it, whether they care for it or not. This is a beta, nothing else, anyone can get access. Even then, when EA drops expect this to continue because new players will join, what a shock, and will learn the ropes, likewise it'll repeat when the game goes full retail.

Who cares if 99% didn't play the first game anyway? You're just sounding like an elitist moron. I've played with about eight people who's usernames I recognised as regular posters from here on the forums, three of whom were pretty bad to be honest (Ironically one is in this thread). I've also met two guys who never played the first one and who I befriended during a game, they weren't too good but they played for the team unlike a lot of the veterans I bumped into and they played to improve.

 

[Raizen7799]

According with the videos and streaming, a huge % don't have any idea how to play a shooter game and is playing KF2 beta. Is just ridiculous the aim and recoil control. And a big % doens't even played the KF1 to know the basics of each zeds. But many KF1 players have no idea how to play and are lvl 6

 

[Nenjin]

Likewise, I ran into a player who straight up said "I never played the first game" and at Rank 3 he was holding his own with no problems the whole game. Friended that dude.

 

[qu3x^]

Its hard to find games now as it is a random opt in thing now. I enjoyed playing with Reallifeh8er while at some point you meet veterans that you can lean onto when **** really hits the fan. But its 90% i need to shoot the big guy with the Chainsaw. XXX was eaten alive.

Best practice is on Outpost where the snowmobiles are parked. There's plenty line ouf sight and I almost lose my **** when I see ppl can't hold their ground fighting on one side with 3 peeps and still get overrun...

Right now I am mostly into Mando and clean out the trash and clutter while the rest is trying to mow down FPs and Scrakes. The inventory also allow so much classes to pick up a medic pistol at least just for the sacrifice at a shovel or a katan... so less capitalise on this fact. It's a well replacement to the M9 and has huge impact on Wave 5-7.

 

[hunter_hunted]

As people have pointed out, it seems a lot of people in KF1 haven't played KF1 but the same logic
In the last week alone on KF1 I've seen several level 6 players that seemingly didn't know rage mechanics or basic stratagies. At least in the games of KF2 I've played we all have an excuse: We're learning/relearning the game and the boundaries of what's possible.

A lot is obviously down to it being new - Think of it like the free weekends in KF1 where a bunch of new players jump on, except in KF2 the 'veterans' don't really have all that much more time than the newbies.

The rage mechanics may be comparable, but the animations/agro mechanics and everything else is different so there'll be a lot of panic shooting before the dust of the initial newbiefest clears, even from regular KF1 players.

 

[Shamoke]

Of course there's going to be new people to the series. KF2 looks to be so much more popular than KF1 will ever be. It's not a bad thing that KF's getting more popular.

 

[ColdAs1c3]

About >50% of the time I play the beta KF2 I find myself with randoms, who appeal the status of being wiped out such as:

• Engaging Scrakes
• Engaging Fleshpounds
• Not healing each other
• Weapon stealing after someone died
• Also I do not remember one time someone carried my last weapon to the trader if I was unlucky. Only I do.

Mostly it ends up being me the only one left or the enraged scrakes unexpectedly raging at me.


Rarely I see KF2 players, who know the basics of KF1 and act like a team. Qu3x^ said KF2 is also a friends-only-game much like it's predecessor KF1 because you usually can't rely on randoms. Basically any co-op game is a friends-only-game. Anyone else has to say something?

Oh no, the beta has allowed some new players to discover Killing Floor. Get over yourself.

 

[SporUS]

Wile I have created this account in preparation for the open beta, unfortunately I feared this would happen. KF2 has a lot more attention and flash going for it then KF1 had and unfortunately wile that mass exposure is good for business which I am happy for Tripwire, it means mass audiences are going to play it. Long story short, lots of dumb kids who don't know how to play. This is unfortunate as the enduring community is part of the reason I still play KF2, but that is the way it goes. Hopefully time will make the community better and wiser.

 

[Panty]

I've noticed a lot of people don't save the last few small zeds at the end of the wave either to run around and find ammo boxes ;___;

Hope they can survive HoE one day without salvaging ammo!

 

[Reallifeh8er]

Oh no, the beta has allowed some new players to discover Killing Floor. Get over yourself.

I'm not butthurt, I'm pointing out facts that I experience. Free speech is a standard these days.

 

[Vulparia]

I'm not butthurt, I'm pointing out facts that I experience. Free speech is a standard these days.

You sound salty, that's for sure.

 

[KaZe_DaRKWIND]

These threads always amuse me. How is 50% new players a bad thing. New players are always a good thing because it means eventually there will be more verteran players. Everybody had a phase where they had no idea what they were doing and what the best strategies were and that will never change. Everybody has to start somewhere.

Besides considering most of the keys were distributed by twitter and news outlets it's not surprising that most of the people are not KF1 veterans. I only played KF1 for 36 hours. People will eventually learn the basics and as they get better will more the more advanced gameplay. However the first week or two will probably be full of new players. And luckily there will be veterans to help guide them along.

 

[silverlighted]

I'm glad many posters have come to defend a new player base. I'd like to also repeat what I wrote on the previous page.

Seriously? Every single one of your bullets applies to 90% of my KF1 experiences in pubs.

When something new comes out like KF2, there's the tendency for criticisms and complaints to be made regarding the new installment, whilst looking at the old installment with rose-colored glasses. I feel like thread is probably the clearest example of that.

 

[Reallifeh8er]

These threads always amuse me. How is 50% new players a bad thing. New players are always a good thing because it means eventually there will be more verteran players. Everybody had a phase where they had no idea what they were doing and what the best strategies were and that will never change. Everybody has to start somewhere.

I never said new players are a bad thing. I was new to KF @ summer 2013 myself. Still you deserve my credit.