http://bashandslash.com podcast about RO2

[Reise]

You guys shouldn't act like the CoD community is the only thing that's going to keep RO2 afloat.

Yes spreading info is great, and there's never anything wrong with that. I just don't want people to come back here in 6-8 months saying "Without us RO2 would've bombed" or other nonsense.

IMHO the people who are still playing CoD now are exactly the opposite sort of people that would be genuinely interested in RO2. Bringing them over is great but, without trying to sound like a jerk, be prepared for what that could come with.

 

[LemoN]

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IMHO the people who are still playing CoD now are exactly the opposite sort of people that would be genuinely interested in RO2. Bringing them over is great but, without trying to sound like a jerk, be prepared for what that could come with.

This.

 

[gyps]

Most interviewers with the exception of those from the commmunity will have little or no idea of RO, so we'er gunna get reshashes of basic info over and over

TWI have a difficult job at the mo, they are trying to expand player base while keeping all exsisting players too, so there spreading word as much as possible, so from our perspective most interviews are 99% old hat stuff, with the odd gem somewhere in there, but evey interview must get more people looking and hopfully will expand our community in the long run. True we'll get more of the twat types too, but these rarely stay long in any one game, more players, means more clans more servers and more full servers gotta be a good thing.

 

[Zetsumei]

I wouldn't even be surprised if a lot of the interviews will cover stuff that will stay the same from Ostfront. There is nothing bad about not always getting new info. Of course it would be nicer if Ramm himself could speak over teamspeak or whatever to actually tell information himself. But a podcast of a few people talking about why they think rohos is a nice game is valuable for the devs as well, as it allows them for instance to focus marketing on those points.

(although I still hope that the capturing system will get a revamp, so you capture a zone if you control say 3/4th of the cap zone area wise. Rather than capping when having more people in the capzone with the majority of your team hidden in some insignificant bathroom at the corner of the cap. ).

One of the keys of red orchestra is that you often fight for an entire building as a capzone, not just a single room, a single flag or whatever. But fighting for entire streets / buildings / areas. And in my opinion that is one of the strongest points of Roost over most other games. And in my opinion is perfect material for a trailer etc.

I just hope that the hide and seek nature gets removed (going to area based capping from player amount based), and that the instant notification that an enemy entered the capzone will get removed (so someone can move further in the capzone before people know he's there).

 

[LemoN]

http://bashandslash.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1125&Itemid=133

Unedited version of the full podcast.

 

[Zetsumei]

IMHO the people who are still playing CoD now are exactly the opposite sort of people that would be genuinely interested in RO2. Bringing them over is great but, without trying to sound like a jerk, be prepared for what that could come with.

Depends what else is there on the market to play, a lot of people don't know about some of the other games that exist. I've been spoiled by RO and cannot play a lot of other games. But if I didn't play RO I would have ended playing Cod, Moh or Battlefield. Those are simply the most major franchises with the best marketing budgets. I mean lets be honest when looking at the majority of mp shooters, most are more unrealistic than MOH, COD, BF.

A lot of communities for games like those from the major franchises are somewhat looking for something better, they just don't know about ROHOS yet. With a game becoming more popular more jerks will come in and there will be less of a community feeling perhaps. But tbh I don't think there really is a Roost community either, the mod had it somewhat as every player knew every other player but that isn't the case in Ost.

Its just important to form your own community and perhaps password the server. In rohos you can lock out high skilled players if you're a less skilled player so there is less of a chance that someone can come in and just pwn some n00bs. And higher skilled players can end up playing a game without newer players grabbing the squadleader without knowing how to use it.

 

[Fedorov]

In the end, the people that will come and stay will be the people that enjoy HOES.

I've never tried to integrate myself in the community of a game I didn't like. Is just not worth my time.

Why would it be different from them?

Maybe a lot of them are now just CoD players that don't know that there is something better out there, players that can be converted into faithful HOES players (and probably, future CoD haters) The rest will stick to their CoD =P

 

[MEGADETHTHRETH]

Red Orchestra will appeal to Cod players, I once was a cod player but there was nothing else worth playing, only arcade games, so people didn't have a choice, this will bring over cod players and I assume they wont go back, i didn't anyway.

 

[Nicholas]

Depends what else is there on the market to play, a lot of people don't know about some of the other games that exist. I've been spoiled by RO and cannot play a lot of other games. But if I didn't play RO perhaps I would have ended playing Cod, Moh or Battlefield. Those are simply the most major franchises with the best marketing budgets. I mean lets be honest when looking at the majority of mp shooters, most are more unrealistic than MOH, COD, BF.

A lot of communities for games like those from the major franchises are somewhat looking for something better, they just don't know about ROHOS yet. With a game becoming more popular more jerks will come in and there will be less of a community feeling perhaps. But tbh I don't think there really is a Roost community either, the mod had it somewhat as every player knew every other player but that isn't the case in Ost.

Its just important to form your own community and perhaps password the server. In rohos you can lock out high skilled players if you're a less skilled player so there is less of a chance that someone can come in and just pwn some n00bs. And higher skilled players can end up playing a game without newer players grabbing the squadleader without knowing how to use it.

I think the "leveling" system in this game will be important then, since higher ranks get first pick of classes they'll wind up being squad leaders and snipers.

 

[skittlesareyum47]

thx for recording.. couldnt listen to the HOS part of the podcast... because needed to play a RO match

Oh just the usual. Nice podcast

 

[skittlesareyum47]

You guys shouldn't act like the CoD community is the only thing that's going to keep RO2 afloat.

Yes spreading info is great, and there's never anything wrong with that. I just don't want people to come back here in 6-8 months saying "Without us RO2 would've bombed" or other nonsense.

IMHO the people who are still playing CoD now are exactly the opposite sort of people that would be genuinely interested in RO2. Bringing them over is great but, without trying to sound like a jerk, be prepared for what that could come with.

I completely agree. But this is the state of the gaming market: at least a million people play MW2 every single day. In a few weeks the new CoD will eclipse that. Most of the market for shooters and the people who play them are in MW2 (20 million in MW2 a lone). You can't really NOT go for them since they are a huge percentage of the market. Certain things suck like the stg and the avt but that is what they are trying to do, kinda dumb though since I don't think an avt or an stg is going to attract anyone to the game. It is at least understandable. And also remember this... the market was ALWAYS about trying to get people from the biggest games.

 

[Apos]

Also when people notice that RO2:HoS has everything what is needed for clanplay and what was missing in MW2, BC2 and other console games like dedicated servers, clantools, modtools, demo recording support, advanced anti-cheat support, etc etc they get into RO2.

That's why is very important for TWI to spread the word about HoS and all PC features which are in.

 

[NoxNoctum]

I found it very positive. They look like they are REALLY looking forward for it.

And in my book, thats a good thing.

+1

-1 to all the haters. So what if they don't know anything about the game. Not everyone in the world can be a TWI fanboy . The more the word gets out the better. Seriously confused about the hate

 

[NoxNoctum]

You guys shouldn't act like the CoD community is the only thing that's going to keep RO2 afloat.

Yes spreading info is great, and there's never anything wrong with that. I just don't want people to come back here in 6-8 months saying "Without us RO2 would've bombed" or other nonsense.

IMHO the people who are still playing CoD now are exactly the opposite sort of people that would be genuinely interested in RO2. Bringing them over is great but, without trying to sound like a jerk, be prepared for what that could come with.

Give me a break. I didn't know about RO till about a year after its commercial release. I'd heard the name mentioned briefly when I was considering purchasing UT and someone said in its defense "Well it's got great mods like RO and such and such!"

Before that I was playing DOD:S... simply because... that's all I knew about. I'd played OFP before and loved that, but there was no OFP 2, and I wanted a WW2 shooter. So I played DOD:S. So shoot me :IS2:

Basically Fedorov is totally right.

Sure, one reason RO is less popular than COD is because it's tougher to get into initially, especially now... years after release, but another is because it absolutely did not get anywhere NEAR the coverage of COD games, because TWI did not have the budget for advertising. COD gets TV commercials, giant gamespot.com ads etc... RO did not. I never knew about it. And a lot of other people who would enjoy it probably don't know about it either.

 

[10-78 BusterKing]

In the end, the people that will come and stay will be the people that enjoy HOES.

I agree, many already enjoy HOES and spend a lot of money on them.

Back on topic,

They really need someone from Tripwire on their show to spread the correct information about the game. Their discussions were really confusing for someone wanting to learn about the game.

Getting a good chunk of the pc community from the flunking COD series is a great move. It will generate a lot of revenue IMO.

People will adapt to the RO2 type of play and RO2 will include game modes that will attract the gaming clans who strive on competition.

 

[heady89]

Omfg,

Some of you are hilarious, you behave like spoiled brats yourselves ?, talking about the Cod community like we're a plock of exclusive idiots that can't handle ourselves, it's rather depressing to see. Do you even realize that there is and always has been a very mature and hardcore modding/competitive pc community in the cod series?

You know just as with any game there are mature players, kids, morons, cheaters, pros, casuals and what not.. but for the love of god accept/respect the players that actually behave and has always been serious instead of acting like two parents trying to teach their kid.

The main folks interested in this game isn't the 12 year old kids who love their bling, the guys from the cod community which is mainly interested in this are the clans and players that want all the technical PC stuff we're used to and hopefully a competitive and mod-friendly game.

Waiting for the next rant with high anticipation...

 

[FlyXwire]

I'm interested in military FPS games and sims, which is what inspired me to try out the RO mod years ago, but did I play other shooter games before then, of course, lots of original and worthy FPS titles pre-dated RO.

I'll not denegrate these games, nor their communities, because I've spent lots of hours enjoying them too, and still do. Fact is the genre is way too big to pivot on what only happens here.

Consumers will vote with their cash, and TWI wants as much of their slice of this action as they can get.

 

[OneDuck]

Just a quick FYI, Crosshairs is a live show where regular gamers discuss present games and what they mean to the PC FPS community. The people you heard on the cast were regular gamers like you or me. John was only in the chat to provide us with any clarifications and that he did and we would love to have him every week.

Crosshairs and the bash network caters more to the hardcore FPS community than the casuals. While the Bash podcast is the main podcast, Crosshairs is different because it's live and with a panel of hardcore gamers each week. What they talk about is limited in knowledge due to the fact they're all gamers giving their opinions about present affairs in the PC FPS community.

I invite everyone to come to the show next week since it is a show for the gamers from the gamers and every voice, positive or negative, is very important.

 

[Private Who?]

I am completely cool with Ramm's point of view. If the only people who buy this game are the current true believers....it will really be detrimental to the long term viability of RO:HoS.

As for NOT wanting a ton of shoe-box map playing bunny-hoppers crawling all over our servers spewing crap about how "RO sux, CoD 4evah"...the people who don't like it will get tired of it and fade away. There's going to be those folks who see it, play it, wake up from their CoD coma and GET it. They're gonna say 'ah....so THIS is what I've been missing.' Those people are out there. Take it from me, I was one.

Do you even realize that there is and always has been a very mature and hardcore modding/competitive pc community in the cod series?

Heady yeah I agree there...when I say 'shoe-box map playing...' etc, it's only in jest. Some of my oldest gaming friends are from Texas Militia, whose CoD servers have been among the best for many years.

 

[hockeywarrior]

NICE publicity! Bash and slash is a big outlet in the competitive gaming community, especially since they broke the whole IW.net MW2 fiasco last year.

I find it interesting just how little these guys actually know about the game -- we need a dev to talk on a podcast to clear up all of these things. These Bash and Slash guys will go nuts when they figure out just how many amazing features are in the game.